Does kernel 2.6 include an NSA backdoor?

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Does kernel 2.6 include an NSA backdoor? plenty900 03-04-2008
Posted by Bill Baka on March 5, 2008, 12:27 pm
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Sebastian G. wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>>
>> If you don't think the NSA (or anybody else) gets into your computer,
>> how about this, my experience so far. I used a torrent engine to
>> download 'Dreamgirls' for my daughter. What I got was a crappy copy
>> and a nasty e-mail from the MPAA police.
>
>
> And this requires access to your computer about how far?

Government warning, that's all.
>
>> About 30 years ago I got a visit from 2 FBI gorillas in $1,000 suits
>> knocking on my door (at home, 8:00 P.M.) for a very minor infraction
>> of FCC regulations,
>
>
> And this requires access to your computer about how far?

Government warning, that's all.
>
>> A few years back, like 2004 (I think) I was detained by both DHS and
>> FBI agents on duty at Beale A.F.B. for riding my bike on a PUBLIC road
>> and taking a few pictures with me 1.2 M Pixel fixed focus el-cheapo
>> camera.
>> Even after proving I was born here, 3rd generation, they held me for a
>> local Sheriff to pick me up and take me straight home with the bike
>> loosely in his trunk.
>
>
> And this requires access to your computer about how far?

Government warning, that's all.
>
>> They do it because they can.
>
> They don't do it because they can't.

Do you ever get out??
Just because you personally haven't gotten harassed by the government
doesn't mean they aren't watching you.
Be paranoid.
1984 is coming true, just a little later than Orwell expected.
Bill Baka

Posted by Sebastian G. on March 5, 2008, 12:46 pm
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Bill Baka wrote:


>>> They do it because they can.
>> They don't do it because they can't.
>
> Do you ever get out??
> Just because you personally haven't gotten harassed by the government
> doesn't mean they aren't watching you.


No. You were claiming that they're accessing people's computers at the time,
by an included backdoor. And that's obviously nonsense.

Posted by The Ghost In The Machine on March 5, 2008, 1:49 pm
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Sebastian G.
wrote
on Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:46:40 +0100
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>
>>>> They do it because they can.
>>> They don't do it because they can't.
>>
>> Do you ever get out??
>> Just because you personally haven't gotten harassed by the government
>> doesn't mean they aren't watching you.
>
>
> No. You were claiming that they're accessing people's computers
> at the time, by an included backdoor. And that's obviously nonsense.

Not as obvious as one might think. I'd have to look to
see how BitTorrent works but my understanding is that a
daemon uses surplus bandwidth, for example.

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Posted by Bill Baka on March 5, 2008, 3:43 pm
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Sebastian G.
> wrote
> on Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:46:40 +0100
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> They do it because they can.
>>>> They don't do it because they can't.
>>> Do you ever get out??
>>> Just because you personally haven't gotten harassed by the government
>>> doesn't mean they aren't watching you.
>>
>> No. You were claiming that they're accessing people's computers
>> at the time, by an included backdoor. And that's obviously nonsense.

How do you know for sure? The government can easily tell them to include
a piece of code for them to use, and if it can be abused the government
will abuse it, Republicans or Democrats.
>
> Not as obvious as one might think. I'd have to look to
> see how BitTorrent works but my understanding is that a
> daemon uses surplus bandwidth, for example.
>
My point was that if the MPAA is allowed access to tracker information
so easily at demonoid.com then they would definitely give it to the
feds. The X-Files had it right, "Trust no one.".
Bill Baka
BTW, most of us hate cross posting so for the record I am on
comp.os.linux.setup.

Posted by Chris Mattern on March 7, 2008, 11:48 am
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> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>>>
>>> No. You were claiming that they're accessing people's computers
>>> at the time, by an included backdoor. And that's obviously nonsense.
>
> How do you know for sure? The government can easily tell them to include
> a piece of code for them to use, and if it can be abused the government
> will abuse it, Republicans or Democrats.

In order to put such a piece of code in a proprietary system, it'd
have to pass under the eyes of dozens if not hundreds of programmers
who do not owe their sole loyalty to whatever government department
decreed it. It would never be kept secret.

Open source is even more ridiculous.


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