Device Authentication - The answer to attacks lauched using stolen passwords?

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Device Authentication - The answer to attacks lauched using stolen passwords? Saqib Ali 09-02-2006
Posted by Saqib Ali on September 2, 2006, 7:44 pm
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A recent "self-serving" report by Phoenix Technologies indicated that
84 of attacks could have been prevented only if Device Authentication
was used in addition to user authentication.

- Evidence Abound:
=B7 Losses from stolen IDs and passwords far exceeded damages from
worms, viruses, and other attack methods not utilizing logon accounts
=B7 Vast majority of attackers, 78 percent, committed crimes from their
home computers; most often using unsanctioned computers with no
relationship to the penetrated organization
=B7 88 percent, of those crimes were committed from a home PC using
stolen IDs and passwords and following normal logon procedures.

- Link to full report:
https://forms.phoenix.com/cybercrime/docs/cyberdoc.pdf

-Their solution?
Use Trusted Platform Module to authenticate devices.

- Problem?
TPM can also be used to force DRM. (EFF and ACLU member don't like DRM
to say the least)

- Alternatives?
1) Be a sitting duck. Passwords WILL stolen and USED to cause financial
damage;
2) Use software based device authentication. e.g. Passmark as used by
Bank of America
3) Create a world-wide PKI, issue SSL certificates to machines as well
as users, and then perform client side authentication from the server.
4) Use IP addresses to perform machine authentication.

- Read more at:
http://www.xml-dev.com/blog/index.php?action=3Dviewtopic&id=3D243

Any thoughts?


Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on September 2, 2006, 8:37 pm
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Saqib Ali wrote:

> A recent "self-serving" report by Phoenix Technologies indicated that
> 84 of attacks could have been prevented only if Device Authentication
> was used in addition to user authentication.
>
> - Evidence Abound:
> · Losses from stolen IDs and passwords far exceeded damages from
> worms, viruses, and other attack methods not utilizing logon accounts
> · Vast majority of attackers, 78 percent, committed crimes from their
> home computers; most often using unsanctioned computers with no
> relationship to the penetrated organization
> · 88 percent, of those crimes were committed from a home PC using
> stolen IDs and passwords and following normal logon procedures.
>
> - Link to full report:
> https://forms.phoenix.com/cybercrime/docs/cyberdoc.pdf
>
> -Their solution?
> Use Trusted Platform Module to authenticate devices.
>
> - Problem?
> TPM can also be used to force DRM. (EFF and ACLU member don't like DRM
> to say the least)

What about a working TMPs first? Just imagine some chip engineer with a
huge mathematical but no cryptographic background actually followed the
specification exactly, then he wouldn't have corrected key<<1024 to
key%(1<<1024) and the entire security would be reduced from 1024 to 1 bit;
well, if the chip actually worked at all, because with such a specification
just a working initialization would be a miracle.

Anyway, they're right. With such a criticial cryptographic device like a
TPM you need an absolutely trustworthy operating system in control of that
device, so Windows, especially the new one with kernel-integrated and
non-removable DRM is totally out of business for such a job.

> 3) Create a world-wide PKI, issue SSL certificates to machines as well
> as users, and then perform client side authentication from the server.

Why world-wide? A corporate-wide PKI with issuing certificates to the users
is a feasible method.

> 4) Use IP addresses to perform machine authentication.

Ouch!

> Any thoughts?

What about Smartcards? Similar to TPM, but not hard-wired, long-term
proven, fully under your control and exchangeable.

Posted by Anne & Lynn Wheeler on September 2, 2006, 9:04 pm
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> What about a working TMPs first? Just imagine some chip engineer with a
> huge mathematical but no cryptographic background actually followed the
> specification exactly, then he wouldn't have corrected key<<1024 to
> key%(1<<1024) and the entire security would be reduced from 1024 to 1 bit;
> well, if the chip actually worked at all, because with such a specification
> just a working initialization would be a miracle.
>
> Anyway, they're right. With such a criticial cryptographic device like a
> TPM you need an absolutely trustworthy operating system in control of that
> device, so Windows, especially the new one with kernel-integrated and
> non-removable DRM is totally out of business for such a job.

there was an activity that looked at chip for the original ibm/pc
(back in the days of acorn) as a countermeasure to software piracy
.... to implement software licensing for specific machines ... similar
to what was common for mainframe software licensing ... recent post
mentioning
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#32 OT - hand-held security

however, nothing came of the anti-privacy activity at that time.

slightly related thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#0 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#1 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#2 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#3 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#4 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#5 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#6 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm25.htm#7 Crypto to defend chip IP: snake oil or
good idea?

Posted by Anne & Lynn Wheeler on September 4, 2006, 2:20 pm
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#41 Device Authentication - The answer to
attacks lauched using stolen passwords?

for slight other drift, i gave a talk on assurance and aads chip strawman
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#aads

in the TPM track at the spring 2001 intel developer's forum
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/index.html#presentation

some comments on the talk from that time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn1
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn2
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn3
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm5.htm#asrn4

the person heading up the tpm effort was in the front row ... and i
quipped that after the past couple years the tpm chip design was
starting to now look more and more like aads chip strawman ... and he
quipped back that it was because I didn't have a committee of 200
people helping design/specify the chip.

Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lassi_Hippel=E4 on September 4, 2006, 2:34 am
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Saqib Ali wrote:
> A recent "self-serving" report by Phoenix Technologies indicated that
> 84 of attacks could have been prevented only if Device Authentication
> was used in addition to user authentication.
<...>
> Any thoughts?

Single point of failure.

-- Lassi



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