is the xp firewall any good?

is the xp firewall any good?

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is the xp firewall any good? googlegroups 12-16-2004
Posted by on December 16, 2004, 8:55 pm
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I have heard that the firewall that comes with windows xp is limited in
its capability, and if that if the only firewall I am using I am asking
for trouble.

Any opinions?



Posted by Officer Friendly on December 17, 2004, 5:18 am
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googlegroups@paul13.com wrote:
> I have heard that the firewall that comes with windows xp is limited in
> its capability, and if that if the only firewall I am using I am asking
> for trouble.
>
> Any opinions?
>
Yes, read the security bulletin today about the XP SP2 firewall hole. I
It can tell the difference between your local network and the Internet.
Fascinating!


Posted by Officer Friendly on December 17, 2004, 5:20 am
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googlegroups@paul13.com wrote:
> I have heard that the firewall that comes with windows xp is limited in
> its capability, and if that if the only firewall I am using I am asking
> for trouble.
>
> Any opinions?
>
Correction:

Yes, read the security bulletin today about the XP SP2 firewall hole. I
It can't tell the difference between your local network and the
Internet. Fascinating!


Posted by Tod on December 17, 2004, 8:42 am
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Win XP firewall is good at keeping stuff from coming in.
But does nothing to stop things from going out.
I've used Win XP firewall for about 10 months, which did it's job.
I switched over to ZoneAlarm (free version) about a month ago.
It really showed me just how much my programs
try to access the Internet.
You really only use one firewall per computer.
So turn off Win XP Firewall and switch to ZoneAlarm.

>I have heard that the firewall that comes with windows xp is limited in
> its capability, and if that if the only firewall I am using I am asking
> for trouble.
>
> Any opinions?
>




Posted by Jason Edwards on December 17, 2004, 10:48 am
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> I have heard that the firewall that comes with windows xp is limited in
> its capability,

It depends on what you mean by 'any good'.
This depends on what you want it to do, and why you want it to do it.

> and if that if the only firewall I am using I am asking
> for trouble.

Well I know many people with a fully patched XP PC connected directly to a
broadband modem, with the built in firewall and automatic updates turned on
and an up to date self updating virus scanner and either an adware/spyware
remover or an alternative to IE. They rarely have any trouble except when
the kids start using file sharing software.
They should really have an external box between the broadband modem and the
PC but in many cases they never bother because if their setup works fine
then why change it?

It may be true that a firewall like Zonealarm will frighten the user by
making them aware of outbound connections to other things, but the average
home user simply does not care about these connections and will have no clue
about how to control them.
How can you expect anyone (including experienced users) to control outbound
connections with a personal firewall if they don't know what information is
going to be sent/received and what it will be used for?

I sometimes find people tell me that I should be using something like
Zonealarm because it's much better than the built in firewall. If I play
dumb and ask them to explain why Zonealarm is better then I usually get
something like 'everyone says Zonealarm is better so it must be true'. If
pressed for further explanation then I either get the outbound connection
argument or a demonstration of cluelessness.

Home users should be drilled in how to keep a virus scanner up to date and
how to use it. They should not be bothered with software firewalls that pop
up incomprehensible messages about outbound connections. They should be
encouraged to use external boxes between the Internet connection and the PC.

You can never be 100% sure that a home user will never get any malware on
the system.
If you insist that they install a software firewall that they've got no
chance of understanding then they will simply get into a mess and be worse
off than they were before.

Jason

>
> Any opinions?
>




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