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how can a firewall box handle virus?

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how can a firewall box handle virus? peter 11-12-2007
Posted by peter on November 12, 2007, 4:17 pm
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Some new firewall boxes advertised DPI and virus protection (e.g. sonicwall
tz180). Sounds attractive. But how does it work?

Let's say I'm downloading a pop3 email. Does the firewall stores the entire
email and attachment, scan it for virus, then forward it on if it's clean?
And if the attachment has a virus, can it strip out the attachment only and
forward the rest of the email? This sounds too good to be true. And wouldn't
this require a hard drive for the firewall?

Similar question for how it handles spyware, trojans, etc.



Posted by Gerald Vogt on November 12, 2007, 6:04 pm
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> Some new firewall boxes advertised DPI and virus protection (e.g. sonicwall
> tz180). Sounds attractive. But how does it work?
>
> Let's say I'm downloading a pop3 email. Does the firewall stores the entire
> email and attachment, scan it for virus, then forward it on if it's clean?

No. It just inspects it while it is downloading just like any other
antivirus software does. They start at the beginning and end at the
end. You only need a small buffer for that.

But it also does not work miracles. It does not forward anything "if
it's clean". It only recognizes for what it has signatures. It won't
recognize the newest malware until the signatures have it. It won't
recognize very rare malware. It will also recognize things which are
not bad. It will also recognize malware which is actually not
dangerous on your computer because your computer is not vulnerable.

So basically, it may find a few things but it is still and always you
who has to decide what's clean or not.

Gerald


Posted by Juergen Nieveler on November 13, 2007, 3:49 am
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> That's why yo use your own email server and then block attachments by
> mime type - and then you block anything that could be malicious by file
> type (mime type).

While this sorts out 99% of the crap, there's enough worms out there
that send themselves as ZIP (encrypted, even...).

Virus scanners on mailservers usually try to unpack the archive files
and remove those files from the content that still look dangerous. But
even that is growing more and more difficult - the latest bugs in
Acrobat mean that every PDF could be a problem :-(

Juergen Nieveler
--
A man is only a man, but a good bicycle is a ride.

Posted by Leythos on November 13, 2007, 7:23 am
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juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de says...
>
> > That's why yo use your own email server and then block attachments by
> > mime type - and then you block anything that could be malicious by file
> > type (mime type).
>
> While this sorts out 99% of the crap, there's enough worms out there
> that send themselves as ZIP (encrypted, even...).
>
> Virus scanners on mailservers usually try to unpack the archive files
> and remove those files from the content that still look dangerous. But
> even that is growing more and more difficult - the latest bugs in
> Acrobat mean that every PDF could be a problem :-(

Yep, we actually block Zip files except from a specific user account
that only admins can reach. In addition to blocking at the firewall
based on mime type we also use SMTP aware scanners that scan before the
email/attachment reaches the mail server itself. Nothing is perfect,
but we've never had a compromised client in more than 20 years.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Posted by mak on November 13, 2007, 9:14 am
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Juergen Nieveler wrote:
> But
> even that is growing more and more difficult - the latest bugs in
> Acrobat mean that every PDF could be a problem :-(
>

yeah I have been seeing these spammails with pdf atachments,what's the
bug/exploit ?

any hints appreciated

M



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