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comp.security.firewalls danibe 12-24-2004
Posted by on December 24, 2004, 11:18 am
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I recently purchased a NETGEAR FVS328 firewall. I am trying to
configure it to block ANY traffic from a range of internal addresses
("LAN Users" in NETGEAR's jargon).

While the FVS328 lets me specify a range of addresses, it doesn't have
an option to block ALL traffic from that range. It only allows me to
specify one service per rule to be blocked. While I could enter as many
rules as there are services in the listbox FVS328 provides, this is
tedious (and most probably doesn't block ALL traffic?).

The list of services currently "blockable" by FVS328 is:

AIM(TCP:5190)
BGP(TCP:179)
BOOTP_CLIENT(UDP:68)
BOOTP_SERVER(UDP:67..68)
CU-SEEME(TCP/UDP:7648)
DNS(TCP/UDP:53)
FINGER(TCP:79)
FTP(TCP:21)
H.323(TCP:1720)
HTTP(TCP:80)
HTTPS(TCP:443)
ICQ(TCP:5190)
IRC(TCP/UDP:6660..6669)
NEWS(TCP:119)
NFS(UDP:2049)
NNTP(TCP:119)
POP3(TCP:110)
PPTP(TCP:1723)
RCMD(TCP:512)
REAL-AUDIO(TCP:7070)
REXEC(TCP:514)
RLOGIN(TCP:513)
RTELNET(TCP:107)
RTSP(TCP/UDP:554)
SFTP(TCP:115)
SMTP(TCP:25)
SNMP(TCP/UDP:161)
SNMP-TRAPS(TCP/UDP:162)
SQL-NET(TCP:1521)
SSH(TCP/UDP:22)
STRMWORKS(UDP:1558)
TACACS(UDP:49)
TELNET(TCP:23)
TFTP(UDP:69)
VDOLIVE(TCP:7000)
IMAP2(TCP:143)
IMAP3(TCP:220)
PING(ICMP:8)
ICMP-INFO(ICMP:3..11)
ICMP-TIMESTAMP(ICMP:13)

Any suggestion how to work around this problem?

I don't mind so much about the tedius part, but I *would* like to block
ALL possible outgoing ports for a certain range of IP addresses
(assigned for internal LAN access only). Is this possible with the
FVS328?

I could do it quite easily with my Linux box running ipchains or
iptables, but that Linux box no longer serves as the Internet gateway
for my LAN.

Thanks,
Daniel



Posted by on December 24, 2004, 11:37 am
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Oops... this is a classic case of RTFM. To be more precise - RTEFM ('E'
stands for "Entire"). ;-)

The manual says: "Service. From this list, select the application or
service to be allowed or blocked. The list already displays many common
services, *but you are not limited to these choices. Use the Services
menu to add any additional services or applications that do not already
appear.*"

Thus, I can now figure out a "trick" to accomplish what I want: By
default BLOCK access from ALL ip addresses (even those that I want to
access the Internet). Then, add rules that provide access to the
allowed PCs for the specific services which I *know* I am going to use.
I think this is even more secure by definition. Duh! :-)

Thanks to everyone who responded. :-D

Daniel

danibe@my-deja.com wrote:
> I recently purchased a NETGEAR FVS328 firewall. I am trying to
> configure it to block ANY traffic from a range of internal addresses
> ("LAN Users" in NETGEAR's jargon).
>
> While the FVS328 lets me specify a range of addresses, it doesn't
have
> an option to block ALL traffic from that range. It only allows me to
> specify one service per rule to be blocked. While I could enter as
many
> rules as there are services in the listbox FVS328 provides, this is
> tedious (and most probably doesn't block ALL traffic?).
>
> The list of services currently "blockable" by FVS328 is:
>
> AIM(TCP:5190)
> BGP(TCP:179)
> BOOTP_CLIENT(UDP:68)
> BOOTP_SERVER(UDP:67..68)
> CU-SEEME(TCP/UDP:7648)
> DNS(TCP/UDP:53)
> FINGER(TCP:79)
> FTP(TCP:21)
> H.323(TCP:1720)
> HTTP(TCP:80)
> HTTPS(TCP:443)
> ICQ(TCP:5190)
> IRC(TCP/UDP:6660..6669)
> NEWS(TCP:119)
> NFS(UDP:2049)
> NNTP(TCP:119)
> POP3(TCP:110)
> PPTP(TCP:1723)
> RCMD(TCP:512)
> REAL-AUDIO(TCP:7070)
> REXEC(TCP:514)
> RLOGIN(TCP:513)
> RTELNET(TCP:107)
> RTSP(TCP/UDP:554)
> SFTP(TCP:115)
> SMTP(TCP:25)
> SNMP(TCP/UDP:161)
> SNMP-TRAPS(TCP/UDP:162)
> SQL-NET(TCP:1521)
> SSH(TCP/UDP:22)
> STRMWORKS(UDP:1558)
> TACACS(UDP:49)
> TELNET(TCP:23)
> TFTP(UDP:69)
> VDOLIVE(TCP:7000)
> IMAP2(TCP:143)
> IMAP3(TCP:220)
> PING(ICMP:8)
> ICMP-INFO(ICMP:3..11)
> ICMP-TIMESTAMP(ICMP:13)
>
> Any suggestion how to work around this problem?
>
> I don't mind so much about the tedius part, but I *would* like to
block
> ALL possible outgoing ports for a certain range of IP addresses
> (assigned for internal LAN access only). Is this possible with the
> FVS328?
>
> I could do it quite easily with my Linux box running ipchains or
> iptables, but that Linux box no longer serves as the Internet gateway
> for my LAN.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel



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