Somewhat Off Topic- Recommendation for Malware Detection

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Somewhat Off Topic- Recommendation for Malware Detection Lewis Angel 03-07-2008
Posted by Bud on March 8, 2008, 2:04 pm
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> Personally, I stay away from Crawler's Spyware Terminator. It is still
> too tarnished for my taste based on its past, the company that
> proliferates it, and the bundled fluff included with it.

I did not enable the Crawler toolbar and was somewhat disappointed in it's
appearance in a recent update. Mat rethink my use of it in th future. You
are quite right in holding it in suspicion.

Bud

Posted by VanguardLH on March 8, 2008, 2:44 pm
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"Bud" wrote in message
>
>> Personally, I stay away from Crawler's Spyware Terminator. It is
>> still too tarnished for my taste based on its past, the company
>> that proliferates it, and the bundled fluff included with it.
>
> I did not enable the Crawler toolbar and was somewhat disappointed
> in it's appearance in a recent update. Mat rethink my use of it in
> th future. You are quite right in holding it in suspicion.


Do I understand that during the install of Spyware Terminator that you
deselected installing their toolbar but that a later "update" from
them shoved it into your host? Yikes. This illustrates the power
that all these security programs can exercise over your host that you
trust with your host. This shows that Crawler is NOT trustworthy.
With this capability ready on your host, they can install anything
they want and have proven that they will do so.


Posted by Bud on March 8, 2008, 5:42 pm
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VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I stay away from Crawler's Spyware Terminator. It is
>>> still too tarnished for my taste based on its past, the company that
>>> proliferates it, and the bundled fluff included with it.
>>
>> I did not enable the Crawler toolbar and was somewhat disappointed in
>> it's appearance in a recent update. May rethink my use of it in the
>> future. You are quite right in holding it in suspicion.
>
>
> Do I understand that during the install of Spyware Terminator that you
> deselected installing their toolbar but that a later "update" from them
> shoved it into your host?

No, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. When I first installed
SpywareTerminator the 'Security Guard database' with the Crawler toolbar was
not present but was included in an update to be installed if you clicked on
it. After reading the terms of it I decided to forgo the 'Security Guard'.
;-) It was a sneaky presentation however with suggestions of internet
protection.

Bud

Posted by VanguardLH on March 9, 2008, 6:24 am
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> VanguardLH wrote:
>> "Bud" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Personally, I stay away from Crawler's Spyware Terminator. It is
>>>> still too tarnished for my taste based on its past, the company
>>>> that proliferates it, and the bundled fluff included with it.
>>>
>>> I did not enable the Crawler toolbar and was somewhat disappointed
>>> in it's appearance in a recent update. May rethink my use of it in
>>> the future. You are quite right in holding it in suspicion.
>>
>>
>> Do I understand that during the install of Spyware Terminator that
>> you deselected installing their toolbar but that a later "update"
>> from them shoved it into your host?
>
> No, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. When I first installed
> SpywareTerminator the 'Security Guard database' with the Crawler
> toolbar was not present but was included in an update to be
> installed if you clicked on it. After reading the terms of it I
> decided to forgo the 'Security Guard'. ;-) It was a sneaky
> presentation however with suggestions of internet protection.


Oh, I see. Much like those installs or updates that try to sneak in
the Google or Yahoo toolbars.


Posted by goarilla on March 8, 2008, 4:07 pm
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VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>> SpywareTerminator
>> http://www.spywareterminator.com/
>
>
> You might want to read the license agreement presented during
> installation regarding their Crawler "services", and read their privacy
> "policy" at http://www.crawler.com/privacy_policy.aspx. Crawler is the
> author of Spyware Terminator, and who really want you to use their
> search toolbar so they can collect the ad revenue through the redirects
> and ads in their search results. Crawler "services" collect personally
> identifiable information about you. I don't know if uninstalling the
> Crawler Toolbar (they called it opting out) gets rid of all Crawler
> processes or behavior.

isn't that the exact definition of spyware: eg software that spies on
its users and sends sensitive personal information about them back
to their creators.

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