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Posted by Flash Gordon on January 10, 2008, 6:53 pm
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Chilly8 wrote, On 10/01/08 22:23:
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>> Sebastian G. wrote, On 10/01/08 19:32:
>>> Chilly8 wrote:
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>>>> Not if they use phpProxy sites. The site obfuscates the URL, so that
>>>> the logs will show a bunch of jibberish imn the URL.
>>> The logs will show the original URL requested by the webbrowser, because
>>> the webbrowser itself logs.
>> Personally I would just publish a company policy forbidding the use of
>> *any* proxy. Then all I would have to do is prove that a proxy had been
>> used, not what it was used for. Proving what it was used for would, of
>> course, be a bonus.
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> However, if you can get to your computer using Internet Desktop
<snip>
Irrelevant. Using any form of remote desktop or remote terminal for
anything other that company business should also be in the published policy.
>>>> And I see NOTHING unethical about listening to Internet radio at work,
>>>> as long as you are getting your work done.
>>> Except if you signed an agreement which forbids doing so.
>> Also companies *pay* for their bandwidth, they don't get it for free.
>> Someone listening to the internet radio (or more especially *everyone*
>> listening to it) could increase the charges the company has to pay for
>> internet connectivity, or cause problems for business related usage of the
>> internet. Since it is generally not permitted *and* can cost the company
>> in real hard cash I would say that it *is* unethical.
>
> Well, providing an open proxy on my machine for the purpose
> of allowing circumvention of filtering systems is NOT illegal.
> As I have said, if it were, Tor would have been shut down long ago.
> You would not see these lists of open proxies all over the net,
> either. Running my own Tor entry proxy, to allow people, primarily
> from work or school computers, there are locked down against
> installation of additional software, to allow the Tor network to
> be used, without installing the software, is LEGAL.
Whether or not you are allowed to run a proxy or tor is also irrelevant.
I was saying why it is not ethical for people to listen to Internet
Radio at work is not ethical (unless the employer allows it). Whether
they do it though a proxy and whether they get caught has nothing to do
with whether it is ethical and whether the company would be within its
rights to discipline staff for doing it.
Also note that whatever technical means are used to disguise the access
it does not prevent the boss from walking up behind an employee and
seeing that they have headphones plugged in to the computer.
Now explain to me how it can be ethical for an employee to increase the
costs of the company by doing something the company states is not
allowed. Not whether your service works, not whether what you are doing
is legal, but whether what the *employee* is doing is ethical when it is
against a clearly stated policy and costs the company money.
--
Flash Gordon
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