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Posted by Lars-Erik Østerud on March 1, 2008, 2:06 pm
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Wolf K. wrote:
> I've used Zone Alarm for many years. But 99.99% of its warnings have
> been false alarms. AFAIK, it hasn't blocked the spyware applets that
> Spybot finds just about every time I run it, so what's ZA's actual
Most people in the firwall group think software firwalls are useless.
Programs that want to access the net will bypass them anyway.
I use ZA only to keep track of what "legal" programs access the net.
So that I can block MS applications and games from accessing the net.
My NAT router with firewall block all incoming "spam"/"attacks" anyway
I have never had any real threaths blocked either in all my years.
Besides I have an AV that catches things in mails and from downloads,
with a web-filter and network and on-access scanning. So I doubt that
anything would be able to start anyway.
Also scan regularrily with Spybot S&D and Ad-aware to be sure.
So... I hvae been thinking the same: Do I really need a SW firewall?
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Posted by Volker Birk on March 1, 2008, 2:42 pm
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> Most people in the firwall group think software firwalls are useless.
> Programs that want to access the net will bypass them anyway.
Firewalls are not useless. It's a bad concept to "inbound filter".
Yours,
VB.
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Posted by Van Helsing on March 1, 2008, 3:15 pm
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>> Most people in the firwall group think software firwalls are useless.
>> Programs that want to access the net will bypass them anyway.
>
> Firewalls are not useless. It's a bad concept to "inbound filter".
>
> Yours,
> VB.
FWIW, I'd describe them as host based firewall, rather than software.
The issue comes down to the fact that much modem malware actively seeks
to bypass or disable anti-malware software.
So, you software (host based) firewall pops up a warning..."Process
XcRyT7B9.exe wants to access the internet - cancel/allow?". Assuming
XcRyT7B9.exe is malware you've already been infected - what else in your
defences is broken?
If XcRyT7B9.exe is malware and its quietly disabled you firewall you
won't get any warning. So, you sit there happily surfing, getting no
untoward warnings from your firewall... is that because there's no
malware or there's some semi-intelligent malware?
Don't get me wrong - in the absence of anything else I'll take a
host-based firewall but I'd rather have something else.
VH.
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Posted by Lars-Erik Østerud on March 1, 2008, 3:34 pm
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> Don't get me wrong - in the absence of anything else I'll take a
> host-based firewall but I'd rather have something else.
So if you have a NAT router with a firwall, a decent anti-virus
programs that scan on-access, and web-pages and mail, and you check
your system for malware/adware often. Do you then need a SW firwall?
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Posted by David H. Lipman on March 1, 2008, 3:51 pm
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| Van Helsing wrote:
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>> Don't get me wrong - in the absence of anything else I'll take a
>> host-based firewall but I'd rather have something else.
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| So if you have a NAT router with a firwall, a decent anti-virus
| programs that scan on-access, and web-pages and mail, and you check
| your system for malware/adware often. Do you then need a SW firwall?
I don't think so and I don't use any.
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Dave
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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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