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Re: Kapersky Internet Suite Andy Prelignat 07-12-2007
Posted by Andy Prelignat on July 12, 2007, 11:46 am
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Mike wrote:

> Virus threats within emails? Certainly, if a virus in an email is
> a real
> threat to your system, then no virus scanner can protect you from
> that.
> And since it makes SSL and TLS connections impossible, the virus
> scanner itself it a threat.
>
> At total, it seems that your system is hosed, crapped, insecure,
> misconfigured and that you have absolutely no clue what you're
> doing.
> And now you want to invest money to make it even worse?

Typical seppi answer. Instead of giving advice he disseminates his
standard shit and feels good. How can a person end up like that?

Andy


Posted by Kayman on July 12, 2007, 6:27 pm
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> Mike wrote:
>
>> Virus threats within emails? Certainly, if a virus in an email is a real
>> threat to your system, then no virus scanner can protect you from that.
>> And since it makes SSL and TLS connections impossible, the virus
>> scanner itself it a threat.
>>
>> At total, it seems that your system is hosed, crapped, insecure,
>> misconfigured and that you have absolutely no clue what you're doing.
>> And now you want to invest money to make it even worse?
>
> Typical seppi answer...
Yes but his second response was pretty much spot-on.
Quote
Next would be flattening the system, it's hopelessly lost. Next... uhm...
well, actually you don't need anything special. Configure the system
correctly, shut down unnecessary services, use non-broken software, and
never start harassing the system with pseudo security software again.
Unquote
(Though not everybody is experienced enough to run without an AV
application).


Posted by Sebastian G. on July 12, 2007, 9:00 pm
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Kayman wrote:


> (Though not everybody is experienced enough to run without an AV
> application).

You're kidding, right? An AV application does absolutely nothing to secure
the system. It merely solves as an intrusion detection system of pretty low
quality. And I'd say it creates an illusion of security that makes the user
act more risky.

Posted by Kayman on July 13, 2007, 4:16 am
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> Kayman wrote:
>
>> (Though not everybody is experienced enough to run without an AV
>> application).
>
> You're kidding, right?
>
No, I wasn't. Read again!
You're not suggesting that *everybody* is in fact is running without an AV
application, are you?
>
> An AV application does absolutely nothing to secure
> the system. It merely solves as an intrusion detection system of pretty
> low
> quality. And I'd say it creates an illusion of security that makes the
> user
> act more risky.
>
I don't disagree at all - prevention is the key. Many users including
myself however do not have the same know-how and pc configuration you have.
Heck, it took me quite some time to harden my pc & what not and convince
myself to do without PFW; My goal is to eventually go without AV and A-S
applications, but I am just not ready as yet. So, calm down, come down from
your high throne and try to be more helpful.


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