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Question on internal/external IPs AnalogKid 12-10-2004
Posted by AnalogKid on December 10, 2004, 2:18 pm
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What is the generic rule to determine if an IP is internal only to a
network or if it can be rerouted and pinged from outside ?

Normally internal IPs are something like 10.0.0.x or 192.168.0.x, but
I'm sure these ranges are not the only ones. I assume there is an
agreed upon set that can be used internally. Is it all 10.x.x.x and
all 192.x.x.x ? Are there more ?

The whole thing was spawned by a friend's question whose office is
using the unusual range of 192.9.200.x! Is this internal or external ?

Many thanks
AK



Posted by Ken on December 10, 2004, 1:55 pm
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Hi -

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:18:48 -0500, AnalogKid

>Normally internal IPs are something like 10.0.0.x or 192.168.0.x, but
>I'm sure these ranges are not the only ones. I assume there is an
>agreed upon set that can be used internally. Is it all 10.x.x.x and
>all 192.x.x.x ? Are there more ?

10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x, and 192.168.x.x are the three
ranges defined for internal use:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1918.txt

There are other ranges that are not routable but are special purpose,
like 169.254.x.x.

>The whole thing was spawned by a friend's question whose office is
>using the unusual range of 192.9.200.x! Is this internal or external ?

This appears to be an external range that has not yet been assigned to
anyone.

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Ken
http://www.ke9nr.net/


Posted by David Wright Sr. on December 10, 2004, 7:40 pm
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> What is the generic rule to determine if an IP is internal only to a
> network or if it can be rerouted and pinged from outside ?
>
> Normally internal IPs are something like 10.0.0.x or 192.168.0.x, but
> I'm sure these ranges are not the only ones. I assume there is an
> agreed upon set that can be used internally. Is it all 10.x.x.x and
> all 192.x.x.x ? Are there more ?
>

By convention, these are the normal ranges, but I believe that you can
use any address you want as long as you don't route them and are willing
to accept that you will not be able to access any outside addresses that
match what you are using. This, I think, is the main point for using the
conventional addresses as they will not be assigned as valid internet
addresses and therefore, you are not blocking any real addresses.

At least, that is my understanding.

David Wright


Posted by Leythos on December 10, 2004, 7:42 pm
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> What is the generic rule to determine if an IP is internal only to a
> network or if it can be rerouted and pinged from outside ?
>
> Normally internal IPs are something like 10.0.0.x or 192.168.0.x, but
> I'm sure these ranges are not the only ones. I assume there is an
> agreed upon set that can be used internally. Is it all 10.x.x.x and
> all 192.x.x.x ? Are there more ?
>
> The whole thing was spawned by a friend's question whose office is
> using the unusual range of 192.9.200.x! Is this internal or external ?

Private IP Address Ranges
Class         From         To         CIDR Mask         Decimal Mask
Class "A" or 24 Bit         10.0.0.0         10.255.255.255/8         255.0.0.0

Class "B" or 20 Bit         172.16.0.0         172.31.255.255/12 or /16
255.240.0.0 or 255.255.0.0

Class "C" or 16 Bit         192.168.0.0         192.168.255.255/16 or /24
255.255.0.0 or 255.255.255.0

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