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Posted by Leythos on February 28, 2008, 9:17 pm
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> I have a select
> amount of programming that is broadcast on Shoutcast,
> though that is mostly talk and sports shows. They can
> simply go to my web site (also NOT in any block lists
> on any of the major filter vendors), click the Shoutcast
> listen live link (when a particular program is being aired on
> Shoutcast) and they are good to go, no circumvention,
> no muss, no fuss.
And for a properly secured network it would not work.
And then you have the violation of company policy, circumventing not
needed, just connecting is most likely a violation of company policy....
Oh, and it's still very easy to spot when one looks for it.
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Posted by Chilly8 on March 4, 2008, 12:05 am
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>> I have a select
>> amount of programming that is broadcast on Shoutcast,
>> though that is mostly talk and sports shows. They can
>> simply go to my web site (also NOT in any block lists
>> on any of the major filter vendors), click the Shoutcast
>> listen live link (when a particular program is being aired on
>> Shoutcast) and they are good to go, no circumvention,
>> no muss, no fuss.
>
> And for a properly secured network it would not work.
>
> And then you have the violation of company policy, circumventing not
> needed, just connecting is most likely a violation of company policy....
>
> Oh, and it's still very easy to spot when one looks for it.
Well, I am about to switch streaming providers anyway. Due
to the rising royalty rates, and the rising Euro vs. the dollar,
Live 365 pricing is going way out of site, for the same number
of listener slots. Its bad enough their recent upgrades resulted
in the service no longer being compatable with Tor anonymity
proxies, and phpProxy installations. I can't blame them though.
Any IP beginning with 212 through 217 is either in Europe,
or has a European ISP, and Live's servers are within
that IP range, and I was actually expecting the rising Euro
to result in a huge price hike (Skype, which I use for my
station's phone service has gone WAY up in the past
18 months, and they use European servers, as well).
Also, European royalty rates, which they have to pay,
as well, are much higher than in the U.S. People holler
about RIAA royalty rates being bad, but the rates in
many European countries are much higher now. Combine
that with a rising Euro, and that adds up to pricing, that
will be going up as much as 4-fold, for the same amount
of listener slots.
The service I am looking to switch to, becuase it is in the
U.S., is not currently affected by the Euro. I will be able
to get about 5 times the listener slots, for HALF what the
new Live 365 rates will be, plus, their service is compatable
with both phpProxy installations, and Tor proxies, so I
should be able to get back all the at-work listeners I lost
when Live 365 recently upgraded some of their system
software. While the increasing royalty rates in America
will affect it, any price hike will likely not be as bad, becuase
none of this company's servers are in Europe.
Unlike Live 365, you don't have to be any technical
genious to get the address you need to use. Just go
to any phoProxy site, plug in the address, and you
are good to go. Given the fact that listener slots were
often at capacity before Live 365 upgraded their
software, and that a lot of that was coming from
workplaces, my station may will become the
WORST NIGHTMARE of corporate network
admins after the changeover to the new service,
as it will be easier for someone to connect through
either a phpProxy or Tor proxy. My current SL
capacity is 50 listeners, and in July and August,
right before the Live 365 system upgrade, I was
often at or near capacity, during the workday in
America, and nearly all of that coming from
phpProxy installations, all based in server farms
in Chicago, Santa Rosa(California),
Dnpropretrvosk (Ukraine), Moscow (Russia),
Provo, Kansas City, and New York.
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Posted by Mr. Arnold on March 4, 2008, 4:45 am
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<snipped>
Will you please stop reporting your little activities. No one cares what
you're doing, but you.
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Posted by Gerald Vogt on February 28, 2008, 2:53 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > Well, I am chatting right now, on my chat server, with one
> woman who surfs through my proxy, from her work, and
> her boss has no clue as to what she is up to. She just
Why should he? It's the administrator you may be interested.
> changed the settings in her browser to point to my
> proxy, and all her traffic goes through my either of
> my proxies, and her boss has no clue as to what she
> is up to.
He may not have a clue at the moment. Once he or the administrator
takes a look into the log files he'll know. Maybe they are relaxed
about this at the moment and don't check the logs thoroughly. But wait
until they have some network security incident or some virus, trojan
or similiar, maybe fully unrelated with the streamed media. Then they
will have a very close look at the logs and find that someone
frequently circumvented the firewall. Enough to get fired just for
that...
And, gee, I can pretty reliably recognize when someone is streaming
media just by looking at the lights of the network switches and how
they are blinking and catch them while they are at it...
Gerald
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Posted by Chilly8 on March 5, 2008, 5:37 am
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>> Well, I am chatting right now, on my chat server, with one
>> woman who surfs through my proxy, from her work, and
>> her boss has no clue as to what she is up to. She just
>
> Why should he? It's the administrator you may be interested.
>
>> changed the settings in her browser to point to my
>> proxy, and all her traffic goes through my either of
>> my proxies, and her boss has no clue as to what she
>> is up to.
>
> He may not have a clue at the moment. Once he or the administrator
> takes a look into the log files he'll know. Maybe they are relaxed
> about this at the moment and don't check the logs thoroughly. But wait
> until they have some network security incident or some virus, trojan
> or similiar, maybe fully unrelated with the streamed media. Then they
> will have a very close look at the logs and find that someone
> frequently circumvented the firewall. Enough to get fired just for
> that...
Well, it turns out that is is still possible to listen to Live 365
through phpProxy sites, but it takes a little more in the way
of technical knowhow, than it did. You have to know how to
install a web logging appliction on your PC. Then you set your
listen settings to "MP3 Player" on Live 365. You then get a
boomarked URL, which you paste into your favourite web
proxy site, then you look in the web logs for the jibberish
URL the web proxy created, copy and paste that into
an Email and mail it to your work account. Then,. when you
get to work, you paste that into Windows Media Player,
Winamp, or whatever players happen to be isntalled on
your work PC (WMP is standard in ALL Windows
installs), and click OK, and then your player will
go to that jibberish URL and begin playing your favourite
Live 365 station. It will be navigating through the web
proxy to get to Live 365. Since these jibberish URLS
"expire" after a few hours, it is best to do this in the
morning, and mail the URL to your work Email
account, in the morning, just before you leave, so
the URL will still likely be pointing to the station you
want to listen to, when you go to use it. Just open
your mail, paste the URL into your player, click OK,
and you are good to go.
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