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Newsgroup filtering with host server software Victek 12-24-2007
Posted by Chilly8 on December 26, 2007, 5:55 pm
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> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in
>
>>> Another possibility is to use a News Provider that doesn't have their
>>> head up and locked and actually has a real live person (or more) who
>>> monitors what's going on and filters the obvious crap before your
>>> news reader (or news downloading tool) even has a chance to see it.
>
>>You're correct that Windows Live Mail has poor filtering capability,
>>but it's good for Hotmail which is my main reason for using it. I some
>>other NG readers though, such as Gravity.
>
> Never saw a reason/need for Hotmail. Any mail from a hotmail account is
> assumed to be spam as no one would be using it for business, and at work

If they are on the road they might. Someone would almost certainly use
a Hotmail account, if they are away on a business trip to get thier Email.
One would just simply set the forwarding on their work Email account to
forward everything to their hotmail account, then they can pick up their
Email while they are on the road.

I travel a lot running my online radio station, and I use hotmail, when I am
on the road, to get my Email. When you are travelling, it is the most
convenient way to keep in touch.



Posted by Flash Gordon on December 26, 2007, 6:49 pm
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Chilly8 wrote, On 26/12/07 22:55:
>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in
>>
>>>> Another possibility is to use a News Provider that doesn't have their
>>>> head up and locked and actually has a real live person (or more) who
>>>> monitors what's going on and filters the obvious crap before your
>>>> news reader (or news downloading tool) even has a chance to see it.
>>> You're correct that Windows Live Mail has poor filtering capability,
>>> but it's good for Hotmail which is my main reason for using it. I some
>>> other NG readers though, such as Gravity.
>> Never saw a reason/need for Hotmail. Any mail from a hotmail account is
>> assumed to be spam as no one would be using it for business, and at work
>
> If they are on the road they might. Someone would almost certainly use
> a Hotmail account, if they are away on a business trip to get thier Email.
> One would just simply set the forwarding on their work Email account to
> forward everything to their hotmail account, then they can pick up their
> Email while they are on the road.

No, in a sensible company they will be provided with some method of
accessing their company email account if they are expected to read it.
For example by being provided with company WebMail access or a
Blackberry. There are many other solutions that do not rely on relaying
email to an external email account.

> I travel a lot running my online radio station, and I use hotmail, when I am
> on the road, to get my Email. When you are travelling, it is the most
> convenient way to keep in touch.

Personally I would find it the *least* convenient method. However my
company provides webmail for when I can't use my company notebook and
other methods for when I can. The same with my personal email.
--
Flash Gordon

Posted by Chilly8 on December 26, 2007, 7:09 pm
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> Chilly8 wrote, On 26/12/07 22:55:
>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in
>>>
>>>>> Another possibility is to use a News Provider that doesn't have their
>>>>> head up and locked and actually has a real live person (or more) who
>>>>> monitors what's going on and filters the obvious crap before your
>>>>> news reader (or news downloading tool) even has a chance to see it.
>>>> You're correct that Windows Live Mail has poor filtering capability,
>>>> but it's good for Hotmail which is my main reason for using it. I some
>>>> other NG readers though, such as Gravity.
>>> Never saw a reason/need for Hotmail. Any mail from a hotmail account is
>>> assumed to be spam as no one would be using it for business, and at work
>>
>> If they are on the road they might. Someone would almost certainly use
>> a Hotmail account, if they are away on a business trip to get thier
>> Email.
>> One would just simply set the forwarding on their work Email account to
>> forward everything to their hotmail account, then they can pick up their
>> Email while they are on the road.

Of course that depends on the type of server the company may have. If
the company is using a Unix-based mail server, its a snap to create a
.forward file and have the mail relayed where you want it to go. However,
very few corporate setups use Unix, either on servers or on workstations,
so this is a non-issue in most companies. That is the only problem with
Windows servers. Windows does not have a function for providing
mail forwarding, and nearly every corporatation around uses Windows,
because most business software is written for Windows. Even if the
SERVER is Unix or Linux, the workstations will likely be Windows.

In this day and age, there is no POSSIBLE a way an office can run
wthout at least having the WORKSTATIONS running Windows,
even if the SERVER is running something else.ww



Posted by Jens Hoffmann on December 27, 2007, 5:39 pm
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> Windows does not have a function for providing
> mail forwarding

For someone advocating windows sos trongly, you have a remarkable lack
of knowledge about windows.

Posted by Marshall Price on December 27, 2007, 8:35 am
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Flash Gordon wrote:
> Chilly8 wrote, On 26/12/07 22:55:
>>> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.security.firewalls, in
>>>
>>>>> Another possibility is to use a News Provider that doesn't have their
>>>>> head up and locked and actually has a real live person (or more) who
>>>>> monitors what's going on and filters the obvious crap before your
>>>>> news reader (or news downloading tool) even has a chance to see it.
>>>> You're correct that Windows Live Mail has poor filtering capability,
>>>> but it's good for Hotmail which is my main reason for using it. I some
>>>> other NG readers though, such as Gravity.
>>> Never saw a reason/need for Hotmail. Any mail from a hotmail account is
>>> assumed to be spam as no one would be using it for business, and at work
>> If they are on the road they might. Someone would almost certainly use
>> a Hotmail account, if they are away on a business trip to get thier Email.
>> One would just simply set the forwarding on their work Email account to
>> forward everything to their hotmail account, then they can pick up their
>> Email while they are on the road.
>
> No, in a sensible company they will be provided with some method of
> accessing their company email account if they are expected to read it.
> For example by being provided with company WebMail access or a
> Blackberry. There are many other solutions that do not rely on relaying
> email to an external email account.
>
>> I travel a lot running my online radio station, and I use hotmail, when I am
>> on the road, to get my Email. When you are travelling, it is the most
>> convenient way to keep in touch.
>
> Personally I would find it the *least* convenient method. However my
> company provides webmail for when I can't use my company notebook and
> other methods for when I can. The same with my personal email.

It sounds to me as if we're mixing up outgoing and incoming mail. I get
most of my incoming e-mail via Yahoo (using YPOPs!, which emulates POP3
on a localhost port), or through a free Fastmail account (using IMAP),
but all my outgoing mail (and news posting, I believe) goes through the
SMTP service provided by my ISP.

I haven't thought about what other SMTP servers I might use away from
home, but fortunately, my ISP has plenty of access numbers all over the
place. I believe YPOPs! is capable of emulating SMTP through Yahoo!'s
webmail interface, but I haven't tried it.

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c

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