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Posted by Julie Bove on June 9, 2007, 4:00 pm
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How would you match up the seemingly different NAMES for security protocols
between my PC and my wireless router?
I am hooking up my first wireless PC at home and I am confused about which
matching settings to use on the wireless router and the wireless PC.
HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WIRELESS ROUTER OPTIONS:
a. Security Mode = Disabled, WPA Personal, WPA Enterprise, WPA2 Personal,
WPA2 Enterprise, Radius, or WEP
b. WPA Algorithms = AES, TKIP, or TKIP+AES
HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WINDOWS WIRELESS PC OPTIONS:
a. Network Authentication = Open, Shared, WPA, or WPA-PSK
b. Data Encryption = AES, or TKIP
Given those choices, which would YOU choose for the router and for the PC?
I tried this settings but it didn't work:
ROUTER = WPA2 Personal, TKIP
PC = WPA-PSK, TKIP
And I tried this settings but it didn't work either:
ROUTER = WPA Personal, AES
PC = WPA-PSK, AES
Given what choices I have, what's the most secure WORKING combination I
should use?
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Posted by Julie Bove on June 9, 2007, 6:54 pm
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:00:44 GMT, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am hooking up my first wireless PC at home and I am confused about which
> matching settings to use on the wireless router and the wireless PC.
>
> HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WIRELESS ROUTER OPTIONS:
> a. Security Mode = Disabled, WPA Personal, WPA Enterprise, WPA2 Personal,
> WPA2 Enterprise, Radius, or WEP
> b. WPA Algorithms = AES, TKIP, or TKIP+AES
>
> HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WINDOWS WIRELESS PC OPTIONS:
> a. Network Authentication = Open, Shared, WPA, or WPA-PSK
> b. Data Encryption = AES, or TKIP
I finally got it to work using AES and WPA.
The only problem is I found articles saying to use TKIP and not AES.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx
Do you know if TKIP or AES is more secure?
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Posted by Jeff Liebermann on June 9, 2007, 7:27 pm
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>On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:00:44 GMT, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I am hooking up my first wireless PC at home and I am confused about which
>> matching settings to use on the wireless router and the wireless PC.
>>
>> HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WIRELESS ROUTER OPTIONS:
>> a. Security Mode = Disabled, WPA Personal, WPA Enterprise, WPA2 Personal,
>> WPA2 Enterprise, Radius, or WEP
>> b. WPA Algorithms = AES, TKIP, or TKIP+AES
>>
>> HERE ARE THE AVAILABLE WINDOWS WIRELESS PC OPTIONS:
>> a. Network Authentication = Open, Shared, WPA, or WPA-PSK
>> b. Data Encryption = AES, or TKIP
>I finally got it to work using AES and WPA.
>
>The only problem is I found articles saying to use TKIP and not AES.
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_03july28.mspx
That article is old and from 2003. MS has since then added WPA2
support to XP. See:
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357>
However, I prefer TKIP because I've had some odd problems with AES.
Most AES implimentations are in hardware. I keep blundering into a
few odd "drivers" that have implimented AES encryption in software
which slows things down considerably. At this time, a long (>20 char)
pass phrase, with no dictionary words included, is quite safe with
TKIP. However, if you have reasonably modern hardware, I wouldn't
worry about it and stay with AES.
>Do you know if TKIP or AES is more secure?
WPA2 with AES encryption is more secure from decryption than TKIP.
For the best currently available, you'll need a RADIUS server, which
delivers user and session unique random WPA encryption keys. This
eliminates the potential for leaking a shared key. Note that it's
quite easy for an evil hacker (like me) to extract a shared key
directly from your PC.
<http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/Aircrack-ng_WinWzcook.htm>
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Posted by Julie Bove on June 9, 2007, 8:12 pm
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> That article is old and from 2003. MS has since then added WPA2
> support to XP. See:
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357>
I'm confused. I have my Windows XP set to update everything so I SHOULD
have that WPA2 update from Microsoft at
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357 but I DO NOT SEE WPA2 as an option
in my "wireless zero" interface.
All I see are options for "Open", "Shared", "WPA", & "WPA-PSK".
Do you know if WPA-PSK is the same as WPA2 or are they different?
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Posted by Jbob on June 9, 2007, 9:47 pm
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:27:29 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> That article is old and from 2003. MS has since then added WPA2
>> support to XP. See:
>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357>
>
> I'm confused. I have my Windows XP set to update everything so I SHOULD
> have that WPA2 update from Microsoft at
> in my "wireless zero" interface.
>
> All I see are options for "Open", "Shared", "WPA", & "WPA-PSK".
>
> Do you know if WPA-PSK is the same as WPA2 or are they different?
You have to match the router settings with your own computer network
hardware settings. Does your wireless NIC support WPA2? You can only use
the higher of the settings that both peices of hardware(router and NIC)
support. In other words even though the router might support WPA2 + AES the
wireless network card in your computer might only support WPA-PSK, etc. If
your network card is much older it might only support WEP.
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