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Comodo vs PcTools Firewalls louise 03-08-2007
Posted by louise on March 8, 2007, 11:46 pm
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Win XP Pro, SP2 with all critical updates, NOD32,
SuperAnti-Spyware

After using Sygate for several years, I decided I had to
update to a firewall that is being supported and maintained
- not the case for Sygate after Symantec bought them.

Wanting more precision, and after extensive discussion on
this ng, I installed Comodo.

First WinFaxPro got stuck in semi-receive mode and froze
whenever I tried to get out of the mess. No amount of
rebooting fixed it. Knowing this was a finicky and old
program, I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Even though it
was clearly "allowed" by Comodo, it froze again and again in
various states.

But it gets worse..... I've been using Outlook, several
different profiles, with a spam catcher called SpamBully for
several years. It has been very efficient. Suddenly, after
Comodo, one of my profiles kept freezing and it became clear
that the profile itself had been corrupted. Removing Spam
Bully didn't fix it.

I should note that after every software uninstall and
reinstall, I cleaned the registry with JV16 so I don't think
the problems exhibited by Comodo are the result of leftover
program code.

Well, I finally uninstalled Comodo (registry included),
uninstalled and again reinstalled Winfax Pro. I then had to
delete the damaged Outlook profile and create a new one.
With Comodo out of the picture, Outlook and SpamBully again
worked happily together once Outlook had a new profile to
replace the damaged one.

So I have moved on to the PCTools firewall. It installed
easily and is playing very well with all the programs that
were negatively effected by Comodo. The only thing I've
encountered that I don't like is that PC Tools Firewall
gives you the option to allow or disallow, but it doesn't
give you the option to allow just this one time. I think
this is a serious flaw.

But after the last several hours of tracking down the
problems and repairing the damage to files, I plan to
happily stay with PC Tools.

Louise

Posted by Victek on March 9, 2007, 11:45 am
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> Win XP Pro, SP2 with all critical updates, NOD32, SuperAnti-Spyware
>
> After using Sygate for several years, I decided I had to update to a
> firewall that is being supported and maintained - not the case for Sygate
> after Symantec bought them.
>
> Wanting more precision, and after extensive discussion on this ng, I
> installed Comodo.
>
> First WinFaxPro got stuck in semi-receive mode and froze whenever I tried
> to get out of the mess. No amount of rebooting fixed it. Knowing this
> was a finicky and old program, I uninstalled and reinstalled it. Even
> though it was clearly "allowed" by Comodo, it froze again and again in
> various states.
>
> But it gets worse..... I've been using Outlook, several different
> profiles, with a spam catcher called SpamBully for several years. It has
> been very efficient. Suddenly, after Comodo, one of my profiles kept
> freezing and it became clear that the profile itself had been corrupted.
> Removing Spam Bully didn't fix it.
>
> I should note that after every software uninstall and reinstall, I cleaned
> the registry with JV16 so I don't think the problems exhibited by Comodo
> are the result of leftover program code.
>
> Well, I finally uninstalled Comodo (registry included), uninstalled and
> again reinstalled Winfax Pro. I then had to delete the damaged Outlook
> profile and create a new one. With Comodo out of the picture, Outlook and
> SpamBully again worked happily together once Outlook had a new profile to
> replace the damaged one.
>
> So I have moved on to the PCTools firewall. It installed easily and is
> playing very well with all the programs that were negatively effected by
> Comodo. The only thing I've encountered that I don't like is that PC
> Tools Firewall gives you the option to allow or disallow, but it doesn't
> give you the option to allow just this one time. I think this is a
> serious flaw.
>
> But after the last several hours of tracking down the problems and
> repairing the damage to files, I plan to happily stay with PC Tools.
>
> Louise

Sorry you had problems with Comodo. FYI, regarding the option to "allow
once" when the firewall intercepts a connection attempt, this is available
in ZoneAlarm - you can click "Yes", but the choice will not be remembered if
you don't put a check in the box to save the setting. ZoneAlarm also
distinguishes between allowing an application internet access Vs allowing it
to function as a server. I don't think PC Tools Firewall Plus currently
makes that distinction.


Posted by louise on March 11, 2007, 12:50 am
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Victek wrote:
>
>
>> Win XP Pro, SP2 with all critical updates, NOD32, SuperAnti-Spyware
>>
>> After using Sygate for several years, I decided I had to update to a
>> firewall that is being supported and maintained - not the case for
>> Sygate after Symantec bought them.
>>
>> Wanting more precision, and after extensive discussion on this ng, I
>> installed Comodo.
>>
>> First WinFaxPro got stuck in semi-receive mode and froze whenever I
>> tried to get out of the mess. No amount of rebooting fixed it.
>> Knowing this was a finicky and old program, I uninstalled and
>> reinstalled it. Even though it was clearly "allowed" by Comodo, it
>> froze again and again in various states.
>>
>> But it gets worse..... I've been using Outlook, several different
>> profiles, with a spam catcher called SpamBully for several years. It
>> has been very efficient. Suddenly, after Comodo, one of my profiles
>> kept freezing and it became clear that the profile itself had been
>> corrupted. Removing Spam Bully didn't fix it.
>>
>> I should note that after every software uninstall and reinstall, I
>> cleaned the registry with JV16 so I don't think the problems exhibited
>> by Comodo are the result of leftover program code.
>>
>> Well, I finally uninstalled Comodo (registry included), uninstalled
>> and again reinstalled Winfax Pro. I then had to delete the damaged
>> Outlook profile and create a new one. With Comodo out of the picture,
>> Outlook and SpamBully again worked happily together once Outlook had a
>> new profile to replace the damaged one.
>>
>> So I have moved on to the PCTools firewall. It installed easily and
>> is playing very well with all the programs that were negatively
>> effected by Comodo. The only thing I've encountered that I don't like
>> is that PC Tools Firewall gives you the option to allow or disallow,
>> but it doesn't give you the option to allow just this one time. I
>> think this is a serious flaw.
>>
>> But after the last several hours of tracking down the problems and
>> repairing the damage to files, I plan to happily stay with PC Tools.
>>
>> Louise
>
> Sorry you had problems with Comodo. FYI, regarding the option to "allow
> once" when the firewall intercepts a connection attempt, this is
> available in ZoneAlarm - you can click "Yes", but the choice will not be
> remembered if you don't put a check in the box to save the setting.
> ZoneAlarm also distinguishes between allowing an application internet
> access Vs allowing it to function as a server. I don't think PC Tools
> Firewall Plus currently makes that distinction.

Thanks for the info. PcTools sounds like it has a long way
to go before it's really ready for prime time.

Things went from bad to worse and I discovered that several
other utilities were malfunctioning - probably really from
Comodo. Eventually, while trying to fix each thing, the
system gave up and suddenly couldn't boot into windows.

One more rave for Ghost! I restored the drive image from
one week ago and as a result, I was back with Sygate. I
think for now I'm going to stay with Sygate. This fiasco
has taken me several hours (I even missed a movie we'd
bought tickets for), and it is a testament to the addage:
if it ain't broke.......

How important do you think a software filewall really is if
you keep Windows updated, use an NAT router, run NOD32 and
SuperAntiSpyware. Perhaps I'm into overkill anyway. I'm
certainly into exhaustion :-)

Louise

Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on March 11, 2007, 1:31 am
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louise wrote:

> How important do you think a software filewall really is if
> you keep Windows updated, use an NAT router, run NOD32 and
> SuperAntiSpyware.

About is important is without a NAT router (which bestows no security
functionality by itself), NOD32 or SuperJunkGarbage: not at all.

> Perhaps I'm into overkill anyway. I'm certainly into exhaustion :-)

Sure you are. You've been messing about with all the problems this Sygate
stuff is supposed to create.

Posted by Bullseye on March 11, 2007, 8:53 pm
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:50:46 -0500, louise wrote:

> How important do you think a software filewall really is if
> you keep Windows updated, use an NAT router, run NOD32 and
> SuperAntiSpyware. Perhaps I'm into overkill anyway. I'm
> certainly into exhaustion :-)
>
> Louise

The recommended setup is using a software firewall for application control,
even if you have a router. What I don't understand is why you quit using
Sygate if you were pleased with it. There really is no reason to switch.
It's not like an AV that has to be updated with new signatures. I've tried
both Comodo and PC Tools and don't feel either is nearly as good as the old
Kerio 2.1.5, which I went back to. Don't get caught up in the hype about
leaktests, etc, as most of that stuff is meaningless in the real world -
even though the hype becomes popular in the marketplace. Sygate is a
proven a very good firewall, which you can used to control which apps
access the Internet. I believe it is a better firewall than most of the
newer ones, including Comodo and PC Tools. Also, have you considered
running HIPS software rather than AS apps? Much more effective, as it is
not signature based. My combo of Kerio 2.15, NOD32 and System Safety
Monitor has kept my system clean for quite some time. SAS is a good app,
and I use it for on-demand. However, running AS software in real-time is a
waste of resources. NOD will catch things before it even gets to your AS
(at least that has been my experience). If anything does get through all
the signature software, a HIPS application will keep it from executing.

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