Any Firewall Appliance to Front End Web and Mail Server?

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Any Firewall Appliance to Front End Web and Mail Server? Will 03-19-2008
Posted by Leythos on March 20, 2008, 6:10 am
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usc@noemail.nospam says...
> Does any vendor make a firewall appliance that is specifically focused on
> protecting internal web servers and blocking against specific kinds of
> attacks? Any references to such appliances are appreciated.

Watch Guard as a SMTP Proxy that will allow you to control MANY things,
including only allowing approved file types, file sizes, etc...

Same with their HTTP Proxy rules.

For medical sites we always use the SMTP and HTTP Proxy rules to clean
content before it reaches the servers or the users sessions.


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Posted by Wolfgang Kueter on March 20, 2008, 8:55 am
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Will wrote:

> To protect internal users and networks I really like the approach used in
> the Fortinet Fortigate firewall appliances, which integrate a lot of
> anti-virus, intrusion protection, and other higher level abstractions
> directly into the firewall. The Fortigate is just a standard firewall,
> however, when it comes to protecting internal servers against hackers.
> For example, you can design a set of firewall rules that might limit
> incoming connections to the web server to port 80, but there is no
> protocol level inspection of incoming HTTP requests, to detect or block
> specific kinds of probes or attacks against the web server.

If the internal servers are on a separate subnet traffic to them can be
inspected by a suitable filtering device just the same way that the device
can inspect traffic to/from external servers.

> Does any vendor make a firewall appliance that is specifically focused on
> protecting internal web servers and blocking against specific kinds of
> attacks?

Any UTM box can do that.

Wolfgang



Posted by Will on March 20, 2008, 7:30 pm
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> Will wrote:
>
>> To protect internal users and networks I really like the approach used in
>> the Fortinet Fortigate firewall appliances, which integrate a lot of
>> anti-virus, intrusion protection, and other higher level abstractions
>> directly into the firewall. The Fortigate is just a standard firewall,
>> however, when it comes to protecting internal servers against hackers.
>> For example, you can design a set of firewall rules that might limit
>> incoming connections to the web server to port 80, but there is no
>> protocol level inspection of incoming HTTP requests, to detect or block
>> specific kinds of probes or attacks against the web server.
>
> If the internal servers are on a separate subnet traffic to them can be
> inspected by a suitable filtering device just the same way that the device
> can inspect traffic to/from external servers.

The attack is usually different. The user inside the network using a
browser goes to a page with a trojan and it is embedded as an Active/X, for
example. So a defense against that would be to inspect the active/x binary
during download for metainformation as well as checksum that might identify
it and then block it.

The attack against the web server you own is more likely to focus on trying
to force buffer overloads on your server, so the defense against that is
more about inspecting for bad URLs, SQL injections, etc.

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Will



Posted by Leythos on March 20, 2008, 9:15 pm
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usc@noemail.nospam says...
> The attack is usually different. The user inside the network using a
> browser goes to a page with a trojan and it is embedded as an Active/X, for
> example. So a defense against that would be to inspect the active/x binary
> during download for metainformation as well as checksum that might identify
> it and then block it.

Actually, blocking ActiveX completely is the best method. There is no
reason to allow ActiveX except from known good sites that require it for
your business.

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Posted by Will on March 21, 2008, 2:35 am
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> usc@noemail.nospam says...
>> The attack is usually different. The user inside the network using a
>> browser goes to a page with a trojan and it is embedded as an Active/X,
>> for
>> example. So a defense against that would be to inspect the active/x
>> binary
>> during download for metainformation as well as checksum that might
>> identify
>> it and then block it.
>
> Actually, blocking ActiveX completely is the best method. There is no
> reason to allow ActiveX except from known good sites that require it for
> your business.

Agreed and that is for the web browsers behind our firewall.

I'm trying to protect a web server, so blocking Active/X at the browser
isn't addressing my need.

What I am looking for is a web application firewall that is commoditized as
an appliance for low-end servers, similar to what Fortinet has done with
their 50B and 60B firewall appliances for small businesses.

--
Will



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