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On Installing Windows Art 09-17-2005
Posted by Art on September 17, 2005, 4:18 pm
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Home users not behind a external firewall/router ... or who shun the
Win XP firewall ... can get easily get into deep doodoo if they're not
careful.

For a project I'm working on, I installed Win 98SE on a spare 2 gig
drive. Since my LinkSys wireless PCI adapter doesn't work with Win
98/ME (don't believe what it says on the package) I bypassed my
router/fw and conneted my DSL modem directly to the Ethernet card.
I then disabled services and made sure that only TCP/IP was bound
to the internet adapter. The netstat -an result was empty as usual.

I then downloaded/installed IE 6 and did Windows Update (WU).
When I rebooted, Windows logon appeared! Sure enough, the WU
Trojan had undone my work. All the NETBIOS file/printer sharing ports
had been opened. I was lucky to not take any hits.

One way to handle fresh installs is to keep a copy of the install file
of your favorite software firewall on CD. Install it immediatley after
Installing Windows, making sure to be disconnected from the internet
during the process. Do your hardening (disabling of unwanted/uneeded
services) only after running the WU Trojan :) It's a good idea to do
this in any event. And keep an eye on netstat -an after every WU.

Win 2K isn't quite as bad in this regard, though I think the WU Trojan
did open at least one high numbered port. Dunno about XP but I'd be
surprised if WU doesn't destroy some hardening on it as well.

The best bet is to getcherself a external fw/router.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg


Posted by Heather on September 17, 2005, 2:02 pm
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> Home users not behind a external firewall/router ... or who shun the
> Win XP firewall ... can get easily get into deep doodoo if they're not
> careful.
>
> The best bet is to getcherself a external fw/router.
>
Timely posting, Art. I have ZAPro on here now, but ran with the WinXP
firewall for 3 days. Have been seriously debating a router and was just
about to hit Google and read up on them when I saw this.

Thanks.....Heather




Posted by YoKenny on September 17, 2005, 2:31 pm
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Heather wrote:
>> Home users not behind a external firewall/router ... or who shun the
>> Win XP firewall ... can get easily get into deep doodoo if they're
>> not careful.
>>
>> The best bet is to getcherself a external fw/router.
>>
> Timely posting, Art. I have ZAPro on here now, but ran with the WinXP
> firewall for 3 days. Have been seriously debating a router and was
> just about to hit Google and read up on them when I saw this.
>
> Thanks.....Heather

For $20.00 or so after mail-in rebates it is the best thing you can install.

It offloads all of the junk Internet traffic so that ZAPro does not have to
work hardly at all only checking outbound junk.




Posted by Art on September 17, 2005, 6:55 pm
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wrote:

>
>> Home users not behind a external firewall/router ... or who shun the
>> Win XP firewall ... can get easily get into deep doodoo if they're not
>> careful.
>>
>> The best bet is to getcherself a external fw/router.
>>
>Timely posting, Art. I have ZAPro on here now, but ran with the WinXP
>firewall for 3 days. Have been seriously debating a router and was just
>about to hit Google and read up on them when I saw this.
>
>Thanks.....Heather

I'm really happy with my LinkSys wireless router/fw which allows us to
share our internet connection on two PCs.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg


Posted by Heather on September 17, 2005, 3:15 pm
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> wrote:
>
>>Timely posting, Art. I have ZAPro on here now, but ran with the WinXP
>>firewall for 3 days. Have been seriously debating a router and was just
>>about to hit Google and read up on them when I saw this.
>>
>>Thanks.....Heather
>
> I'm really happy with my LinkSys wireless router/fw which allows us to
> share our internet connection on two PCs.
>
Is there any advantage/disadvantage to wired vs wireless?? I was told that
wireless HAS to be configured just so and that wired might be safer for
someone like myself who has never used one.

I was considering it for safety, but more so for linking up to my old WinME
coz there is a lot of stuff that could then stay on that one and I could
just access it via XP. No matter how much you back up.....there are always
silly little things you forget and I am constantly copying via floppy for
most of it.

95% of the old one is backed up on CD's. But there are a lot of emails with
genealogy data on them......Peg would understand how we collect them up for
possible future use. (G)

Heather




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