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share account # SamIam 04-12-2007
Posted by Roland on April 18, 2007, 1:51 pm
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>I wouldn't have talked to the banjo player in the movie
>Deliverance ... either.

Drew: Goddamn, you play a mean banjo
Mountain Man: I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee!
Bobby: Weee!
Mountain Man: Weeeeeeee!
Bobby: Weee!
Mountain Man: What do you want to do now?
Toothless Man: [grinning] He's got a real pretty mouth on him, don't he?
Mountain Man: Ain't that the truth.
Toothless Man: [to Ed] You gonna do some prayin' for me, boy. And you better
pray real good.


> Jim wrote:
>
> >> That is crap.. Shoddy all the way.
>
> >> If you are collecting for 3 accts. then establish 3 accts. and have
> >> them report CID or SIA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >I've ignored you for a long time. With all of the bullshit shabby
> >garbage you've boasted about here, for the time you've been here,
> >you've got little room to talk.
>
> Which shoddy thing would you like to discuss that I've boasted about?
>
> I'm entitled to my opinion. I think that setting 3 panels to dial the
> same acct. is a service nightmare.
>
> >I'd suggest very strongly that you mind your own fucking business.
>
> Or what? You'll call me names?
>

Nah ..... come to think of it ..... you're right.

I wouldn't have talked to the banjo player in the movie
Deliverance ... either.

>
>
> >Read my reply to Leuck. It goes as well for you.
>
> Haven't seen it yet.




Posted by Mark Leuck on April 13, 2007, 12:29 am
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> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > The issue wouldn't be so much the signals banging into each other at
the
> > > reciever...reciever can deal with that.
> >
> > > First...I wouldn't do it with a fire system.
> >
> > > But, I have done it with large homes where it was impractical or
> > impossible
> > > to run the main house and the barn (1/4 mile away) on the same system,
so
> > I
> > > put a monster system in the main house and a baby system in the barn.
The
> > > house uses zones 5-40, and the barn uses zones 1-5...report in same
format
> > > to same account# and make notes in CS zoning where sigs are coming
from.
> > > Problem: which system fails to test?, which system is sending AC fail
or
> > > low battery? Welp, if your CS has CID ability on signals you could
tell if
> > > the barn and main house were on different phone lines.
> >
> > > Kinda funky way of doing things for owner that doesn't want to pay for
two
> > > accounts.
> >
> > > The solution is simple.
> > > Use 4/2 format.
> >
> > Instead of making compromises like that just use 2 account numbers, I
hate
> > it when 2 systems are set like this- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> How would you know if no one told you? You'd have no idea if the
> signals were coming from one or five differnt panels.

True and I find out about it after the fact, it ends up being a confusing
mess that didn't have to happen

> I've got an account with three alarm panels in three seperate
> buildings, each calling out on different telephone lines, all
> reporting to one account number. It's all 4/2 format and the alarms
> are reported as ....3/1 front door building one. 5/1Motion detector
> building three. etc. Supervisory codes for low battery, 8D, 8E and 8F.
> AC loss is 9D, 9E and 9F and so on. Central doesn't have to be
> concerned about how many panels or phone lines or locations. It just
> reports the signals as what I've told them to report. If there were
> fire panels, I'd do the same thing with them except with two descrete
> telephone lines to each panel. It's ok to report both fire and burg on
> the same account number, last time I checked. It's public utility so
> there'd be no problem getting as many lines as needed.

So why not use multiple account numbers and avoid all this? I think I know
why

> This is a perfect use for 4/2 formating. The best thing about it is, I
> collect for three monitored accounts.

And only have to pay for one, THATS the reason. The funny thing is I posted
the "I think I know why" before I scrolled down to see the rest



Posted by Milhouse Van Houten on April 13, 2007, 12:56 am
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Mark Leuck wrote:

>And only have to pay for one, THATS the reason. The funny thing is I posted
>the "I think I know why" before I scrolled down to see the rest

you nailed it.

Posted by Jim on April 16, 2007, 11:20 pm
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>
> So why not use multiple account numbers and avoid all this? I think I know
> why

Avoid all what?

What's the matter? Too tough for you to figure out?

I installed the systems in 1989. It was a very easy thing to do at the
time.

>
> > This is a perfect use for 4/2 formating. The best thing about it is, I
> > collect for three monitored accounts.
>
> And only have to pay for one, THATS the reason. The funny thing is I posted
> the "I think I know why" before I scrolled down to see the rest-

Ahhh, I see.

Well I can understand that you, not knowing how to run a business and
used to spending your employers money with out concern, wouldn't have
an incentive to do a little cost saving.

The system has been doing fine for a lot of years. Long before CID was
employed as an option in control panels and during a time when
monitoring was about $7.00 per account and we were only getting $14.00
or so. If for some reason it didn't work, it would have been easy
enough to change. It worked and still does.

But I know how astute a business man you are and that rather than
saving a few bucks you'd have used CID on three seperate account
numbers, even before it was available

Some day when you grow up and maybe aquire the guts to go into
business for yourself, .......

Well ..... never mind .......


Posted by Mark Leuck on April 17, 2007, 12:14 am
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>
> >
> > So why not use multiple account numbers and avoid all this? I think I
know
> > why
>
> Avoid all what?
>
> What's the matter? Too tough for you to figure out?
>
> I installed the systems in 1989. It was a very easy thing to do at the
> time.

I'm sure it was

> >
> > > This is a perfect use for 4/2 formating. The best thing about it is, I
> > > collect for three monitored accounts.
> >
> > And only have to pay for one, THATS the reason. The funny thing is I
posted
> > the "I think I know why" before I scrolled down to see the rest-
>
> Ahhh, I see.
>
> Well I can understand that you, not knowing how to run a business and
> used to spending your employers money with out concern, wouldn't have
> an incentive to do a little cost saving.

Yea, charge the customer for 3 accounts yet tell the monitoring station it's
just 1, makes me wonder what other "little cost savings" you have out there

> The system has been doing fine for a lot of years. Long before CID was
> employed as an option in control panels and during a time when
> monitoring was about $7.00 per account and we were only getting $14.00
> or so. If for some reason it didn't work, it would have been easy
> enough to change. It worked and still does.

I'm sure you do think it does work fine but you seem to think this is all
about CID, the reporting format has nothing to do with it

> But I know how astute a business man you are and that rather than
> saving a few bucks you'd have used CID on three seperate account
> numbers, even before it was available

No then I would have used three account numbers and sent 4/2, but well thats
just me

> Some day when you grow up and maybe aquire the guts to go into
> business for yourself, .......
>
> Well ..... never mind .......

I see, it takes guts to screw the monitoring station, interesting



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