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programming an Ademco Vista rickm 04-22-2008
Posted by A.J. on April 28, 2008, 1:14 am
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The mainboard is probably defective, replace the mainboard and if it does
not solve the problem, replace the sensors and rewire the system.

What is Type 10 sensor anyway ?

Good luck.


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> > > ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> > > >The IR motion is not working
> > > > though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
> > > > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> > > > anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> > > > "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> > > > allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
> > > > LO side on the panel.
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> > > I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system may
> > > bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.
>
> > > --
> > > js
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> > > He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest
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> > Interesting point, how can the motion be tested?
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> > If you have programmed the zones for EOL resistors then make sure you
> > are
> > using the correct value EOLs.
> > If you have programmed the zones for NC then make sure you aren't using
> > EOL
> > resisotrs.
> > Make sure all zones show normal on the keypad.
> > Turn the alarm on
> > Open and close an entry/exit door.
> > Wait for the exit delay to expire and then walk past the motion sensor
> > Listen for the siren/bell or whatever audible device you have connected.
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> > Doug- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Looks like are 2 issues, the first is that auto-stay was enable so
> thats been fixed. The IR needs to be
> set to NC for the system to ready. I removed the series resistor and
> and set it to TYPE10. The IR still
> does not trip the alarm. I metered the HI/LO terminals and it always
> read about 13.4VAC whether the
> sensors beams where broken or not as indicated by the LED. I would
> expect it the voltage to drop to
> about 3VAC like the door switches.
>
> Im thinking the IR is broken! ...anyone agree???
>
> I think the installer is broken- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

why?



Posted by A.J. on April 28, 2008, 1:28 am
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Dont' forget to replace the transformer and the battery also. The old
transformer may not be putting out enough power for the new board to work.

The siren may be drawing too much currect from the power supply circuit, so
you may want to put a series resistor at the siren terminal to cut down on
the current draw.

Please come back here and let us know if any of those posted suggestion work
for you.




> The mainboard is probably defective, replace the mainboard and if it does
> not solve the problem, replace the sensors and rewire the system.
>
> What is Type 10 sensor anyway ?
>
> Good luck.
>
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>>
>> > > ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>> > > >The IR motion is not working
>> > > > though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The
>> > > > other
>> > > > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
>> > > > anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
>> > > > "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
>> > > > allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
>> > > > LO side on the panel.
>>
>> > > I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system
>> > > may
>> > > bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.
>>
>> > > --
>> > > js
>>
>> > > He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest
>>
>> > Interesting point, how can the motion be tested?
>>
>> > If you have programmed the zones for EOL resistors then make sure you
>> > are
>> > using the correct value EOLs.
>> > If you have programmed the zones for NC then make sure you aren't using
>> > EOL
>> > resisotrs.
>> > Make sure all zones show normal on the keypad.
>> > Turn the alarm on
>> > Open and close an entry/exit door.
>> > Wait for the exit delay to expire and then walk past the motion sensor
>> > Listen for the siren/bell or whatever audible device you have
>> > connected.
>>
>> > Doug- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Looks like are 2 issues, the first is that auto-stay was enable so
>> thats been fixed. The IR needs to be
>> set to NC for the system to ready. I removed the series resistor and
>> and set it to TYPE10. The IR still
>> does not trip the alarm. I metered the HI/LO terminals and it always
>> read about 13.4VAC whether the
>> sensors beams where broken or not as indicated by the LED. I would
>> expect it the voltage to drop to
>> about 3VAC like the door switches.
>>
>> Im thinking the IR is broken! ...anyone agree???
>>
>> I think the installer is broken- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> why?
>



Posted by on April 28, 2008, 1:33 am
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> Dont' forget to replace the transformer and the battery also. The old
> transformer may not be putting out enough power for the new board to work.=

>
> The siren may be drawing too much currect from the power supply circuit, s=
o
> you may want to put a series resistor at the siren terminal to cut down on=

> the current draw.
>
> Please come back here and let us know if any of those posted suggestion wo=
rk
> for you.
>
>
>
>
>
> > The mainboard is probably defective, replace the mainboard and if it doe=
s
> > not solve the problem, replace the sensors and rewire the system.
>
> > What is Type 10 sensor anyway ?
>
> > Good luck.
>

>

>
>
...
>
> >> > > ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> >> > > >The IR motion is not working
> >> > > > though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> >> > > > anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> >> > > > "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> >> > > > allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on th=
e
> >> > > > LO side on the panel.
>
> >> > > I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system
> >> > > may
> >> > > bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.
>
> >> > > --
> >> > > js
>
> >> > > He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest
>
> >> > Interesting point, how can the motion be tested?
>
> >> > If you have programmed the zones for EOL resistors then make sure you=

> >> > are
> >> > using the correct value EOLs.
> >> > If you have programmed the zones for NC then make sure you aren't usi=
ng
> >> > EOL
> >> > resisotrs.
> >> > Make sure all zones show normal on the keypad.
> >> > Turn the alarm on
> >> > Open and close an entry/exit door.
> >> > Wait for the exit delay to expire and then walk past the motion senso=
r
> >> > Listen for the siren/bell or whatever audible device you have
> >> > connected.
>
> >> > Doug- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Looks like are 2 issues, the first is that auto-stay was enable so
> >> thats been fixed. The IR needs to be
> >> set to NC for the system to ready. I removed the series resistor and
> >> and set it to TYPE10. The IR still
> >> does not trip the alarm. I metered the HI/LO terminals and it always
> >> read about 13.4VAC whether the
> >> sensors beams where broken or not as indicated by the LED. I would
> >> expect it the voltage to drop to
> >> about 3VAC like the door switches.
>
> >> Im thinking the IR is broken! ...anyone agree???
>
> >> I think the installer is broken- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > why?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The alarm replacement is a complete unit with battery and power supply

Posted by alarman on April 28, 2008, 11:44 am
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A.J. wrote:
> Dont' forget to replace the transformer and the battery also. The old
> transformer may not be putting out enough power for the new board to
> work.
> The siren may be drawing too much currect from the power supply
> circuit, so you may want to put a series resistor at the siren
> terminal to cut down on the current draw.


Yes, and don't forget that the house's electrical system may be defective.
I'd suggest replacing all wiring in the home, and have the power company
install a new meter as well.

js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.



Posted by alarman on April 29, 2008, 12:18 am
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Mark Leuck wrote:
>>
>> As Rodney used to say, "you need to think outside the box."

> Did Rodney really say that?

Actually I think it was Rory.

--
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.



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