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programming an Ademco Vista rickm 04-22-2008
Posted by on April 27, 2008, 3:07 pm
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On Apr 27, 11:23=A0am, Frank Olson
> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> >> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> cool...have fun!
> >>>> --
> >>>> **Crash Gordon**
...

> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> *182 is for custom zones
> >>>>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard =
ones
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>> page 12
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
m...
> >>>>>>> On Apr 22, 10:08 pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.inval=
id>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
> >>>>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
> >>>>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
> >>>>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
> >>>>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry d=
elay
> >>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
.com...
> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? =A0Whats a typical en=
try
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> *182:
> >>>>>>>>> 1) =A0door switches
> >>>>>>>>> 2) =A0IR motion
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
> >>>>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
> >>>>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. =A0Is *56 the right fiel=
d?
> >>>>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
> >>>>> testing is next
> >>>>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> Something is still not right. =A0The system is up, will arm and both
> >>> pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
> >>> alarm.
> >>> The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. =A0The door
> >>> switch worked on the old main box. =A0I tried "test" and "chime" mod a=
nd
> >>> they do nothing. =A0There are no error mesages or faults.
> >>> The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. =A0Thi=
s
> >>> manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
> >>> door =A0 =A0-------------------------- HI
> >>> switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
> >>> IR =A0 =A0 =A0 -------------------------- HI
> >>> sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
> >>> pwr =A0 =A0---------------------------aux +
> >>> gnd =A0 =A0---------------------------aux -
> >>> Is this correct? =A0any suggestion on what to check?
> >> turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.
>
> >> If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
> >> zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper zon=
e
> >> type and not just zeroed out.
>
> >> If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
> >> contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.
>
> >> Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors as=

> >> well using 'walk test' - its in manual...- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > In the home stretch!!!....The doors were set to EOL instead of N/C so
> > they are now working. =A0The IR motion is not working
> > though. =A0Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. =A0The oth=
er
> > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> > anything. =A0I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> > "see's" movement. =A0 =A0I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> > allows the system to come READY. =A0 =A0I have the inline resister on th=
e
> > LO side on the panel.
>
> > any thoughts?
>
> > Thanks
>
> You don't need the resistor if your loops are programmed N/C (no EOL).
> Set the IR loop as a perimeter/chime for testing after you remove the
> resistor. =A0I'd close by saying "RTFM", but the Ademco products are a bit=

> of a challenge to program for a novice. =A0Glad things are workin' out.
> Keep us posted on your progress.
>
> Regards,
> Frank Olson- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Im replacing an Ademco 4030 which required a series resistor on each
loop. Do you
recommend removing the resistor on both the doors and IR?

Also, the documentation for the IR does not specify if its N/C or N/
O. What the typical setting?
If N/O, is a resisor required?

THANKS!!!!!

Posted by Crash Gordon on April 28, 2008, 6:17 pm
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most are n/c unless you have one with n/c com n/o
resistOrs are required on any loop if you're using EOL in program

--
**Crash Gordon**







> On Apr 27, 11:23 am, Frank Olson
>> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>> >> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> cool...have fun!
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> **Crash Gordon**
>> >>>>> On Apr 23, 8:53 pm, "Crash Gordon"
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> *182 is for custom zones
>> >>>>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard
>> >>>>>> ones
>> >>>>>> on
>> >>>>>> page 12
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>> >>>>>>> On Apr 22, 10:08 pm, "Crash Gordon"
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
>> >>>>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>> >>>>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
>> >>>>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
>> >>>>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry
>> >>>>>>>> delay
>> >>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? Whats a typical
>> >>>>>>>>> entry
>> >>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>>>> *182:
>> >>>>>>>>> 1) door switches
>> >>>>>>>>> 2) IR motion
>> >>>>>>>>> thanks
>> >>>>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
>> >>>>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
>> >>>>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. Is *56 the right field?
>> >>>>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
>> >>>>> testing is next
>> >>>>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>> Something is still not right. The system is up, will arm and both
>> >>> pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
>> >>> alarm.
>> >>> The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. The door
>> >>> switch worked on the old main box. I tried "test" and "chime" mod and
>> >>> they do nothing. There are no error mesages or faults.
>> >>> The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. This
>> >>> manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
>> >>> door -------------------------- HI
>> >>> switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>> >>> IR -------------------------- HI
>> >>> sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>> >>> pwr ---------------------------aux +
>> >>> gnd ---------------------------aux -
>> >>> Is this correct? any suggestion on what to check?
>> >> turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.
>>
>> >> If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
>> >> zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper
>> >> zone
>> >> type and not just zeroed out.
>>
>> >> If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
>> >> contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.
>>
>> >> Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors
>> >> as
>> >> well using 'walk test' - its in manual...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > In the home stretch!!!....The doors were set to EOL instead of N/C so
>> > they are now working. The IR motion is not working
>> > though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
>> > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
>> > anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
>> > "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
>> > allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
>> > LO side on the panel.
>>
>> > any thoughts?
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> You don't need the resistor if your loops are programmed N/C (no EOL).
>> Set the IR loop as a perimeter/chime for testing after you remove the
>> resistor. I'd close by saying "RTFM", but the Ademco products are a bit
>> of a challenge to program for a novice. Glad things are workin' out.
>> Keep us posted on your progress.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Frank Olson- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Im replacing an Ademco 4030 which required a series resistor on each
> loop. Do you
> recommend removing the resistor on both the doors and IR?
>
> Also, the documentation for the IR does not specify if its N/C or N/
> O. What the typical setting?
> If N/O, is a resisor required?
>
> THANKS!!!!!



Posted by alarman on April 27, 2008, 3:54 pm
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rickm@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>The IR motion is not working
> though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
> zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
> LO side on the panel.


I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system may
bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.

--
js

He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest



Posted by on April 27, 2008, 4:44 pm
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> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> >The IR motion is not working
> > though. =A0Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. =A0The oth=
er
> > zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> > anything. =A0I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> > "see's" movement. =A0 =A0I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> > allows the system to come READY. =A0 =A0I have the inline resister on th=
e
> > LO side on the panel.
>
> I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system may
> bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.
>
> --
> js
>
> He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest

Interesting point, how can the motion be tested?

Posted by alarman on April 27, 2008, 4:50 pm
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rickm@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>>> The IR motion is not working
>>> though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
>>> zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
>>> anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
>>> "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
>>> allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
>>> LO side on the panel.
>>
>> I you arm the system but don't open an entry/exit door, the system
>> may bypass the motion detectors, thinking you are still inside.
>>
>> --
>> js
>>
>> He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest
>
> Interesting point, how can the motion be tested?

Arm the system, open and close the front door, wait for the exit delay to
expire.

--
js

He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest



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