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programming an Ademco Vista rickm 04-22-2008
Posted by Crash Gordon on April 24, 2008, 6:31 pm
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cool...have fun!

--
**Crash Gordon**







> wrote:
>> *182 is for custom zones
>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard ones
>> on
>> page 12
>>
>> --
>> **Crash Gordon**
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
>> >> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>>
>> >> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
>> >> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
>> >> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry delay
>> >> if
>> >> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>>
>> >> --
>> >> **Crash Gordon**
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? Whats a typical entry
>> >> > for
>> >> > *182:
>>
>> >> > 1) door switches
>> >> > 2) IR motion
>>
>> >> > thanks
>>
>> > Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
>> > required so thats what I was trying to get working.
>> > Sounds like that is not right so Im open. Is *56 the right field?
>
> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
> testing is next
>
> Thanks!!!



Posted by on April 26, 2008, 4:46 pm
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wrote:
> cool...have fun!
>
> --
> **Crash Gordon**
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >> *182 is for custom zones
> >> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard ones=

> >> on
> >> page 12
>
> >> --
> >> **Crash Gordon**
>
>

>

> >> > wrote:
> >> >> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
> >> >> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>
> >> >> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
> >> >> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
> >> >> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry dela=
y
> >> >> if
> >> >> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> **Crash Gordon**
>
>
m...
>
> >> >> > Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? =A0Whats a typical entr=
y
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > *182:
>
> >> >> > 1) =A0door switches
> >> >> > 2) =A0IR motion
>
> >> >> > thanks
>
> >> > Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
> >> > required so thats what I was trying to get working.
> >> > Sounds like that is not right so Im open. =A0Is *56 the right field?
>
> > after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
> > testing is next
>
> > Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Something is still not right. The system is up, will arm and both
pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
alarm.
The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. The door
switch worked on the old main box. I tried "test" and "chime" mod and
they do nothing. There are no error mesages or faults.

The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. This
manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected

door -------------------------- HI
switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO

IR -------------------------- HI
sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
pwr ---------------------------aux +
gnd ---------------------------aux -

Is this correct? any suggestion on what to check?




Posted by JoeRaisin on April 26, 2008, 6:51 pm
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rickm@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> wrote:
>> cool...have fun!
>>
>> --
>> **Crash Gordon**
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> *182 is for custom zones
>>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard ones
>>>> on
>>>> page 12
>>>> --
>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
>>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
>>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
>>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry delay
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? Whats a typical entry
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> *182:
>>>>>>> 1) door switches
>>>>>>> 2) IR motion
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
>>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
>>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. Is *56 the right field?
>>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
>>> testing is next
>>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>
> Something is still not right. The system is up, will arm and both
> pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
> alarm.
> The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. The door
> switch worked on the old main box. I tried "test" and "chime" mod and
> they do nothing. There are no error mesages or faults.
>
> The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. This
> manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
>
> door -------------------------- HI
> switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>
> IR -------------------------- HI
> sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
> pwr ---------------------------aux +
> gnd ---------------------------aux -
>
> Is this correct? any suggestion on what to check?
>
>
>

turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.

If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper zone
type and not just zeroed out.

If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.

Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors as
well using 'walk test' - its in manual...

Posted by on April 27, 2008, 2:02 pm
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> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
> > wrote:
> >> cool...have fun!
>
> >> --
> >> **Crash Gordon**
>
>
.
>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> *182 is for custom zones
> >>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard on=
es
> >>>> on
> >>>> page 12
> >>>> --
> >>>> **Crash Gordon**
..
> >>>>> On Apr 22, 10:08 pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid=
>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
> >>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
> >>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
> >>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
> >>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry del=
ay
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
om...
> >>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? =A0Whats a typical entr=
y
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> *182:
> >>>>>>> 1) =A0door switches
> >>>>>>> 2) =A0IR motion
> >>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
> >>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
> >>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. =A0Is *56 the right field?=

> >>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
> >>> testing is next
> >>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Something is still not right. =A0The system is up, will arm and both
> > pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
> > alarm.
> > The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. =A0The door
> > switch worked on the old main box. =A0I tried "test" and "chime" mod and=

> > they do nothing. =A0There are no error mesages or faults.
>
> > The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. =A0This
> > manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
>
> > door =A0 =A0-------------------------- HI
> > switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>
> > IR =A0 =A0 =A0 -------------------------- HI
> > sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
> > pwr =A0 =A0---------------------------aux +
> > gnd =A0 =A0---------------------------aux -
>
> > Is this correct? =A0any suggestion on what to check?
>
> turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.
>
> If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
> zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper zone
> type and not just zeroed out.
>
> If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
> contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.
>
> Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors as
> well using 'walk test' - its in manual...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In the home stretch!!!....The doors were set to EOL instead of N/C so
they are now working. The IR motion is not working
though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
"see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
LO side on the panel.

any thoughts?

Thanks

Posted by Frank Olson on April 27, 2008, 2:23 pm
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rickm@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>> ri...@galaxy.nsc.com wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>> cool...have fun!
>>>> --
>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> *182 is for custom zones
>>>>>> just use *56 area and the zone types I gave or any of the standard ones
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> page 12
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I hardly ever use customizable zone types.
>>>>>>>> Is there a reason you don't want to use normal zone types?
>>>>>>>> 01 Entry/Exit #1 - delayed doors
>>>>>>>> 03 Perimeter - instant doors/windows
>>>>>>>> 04 Interior Follower - interior device (pir) that follows entry delay
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> delay zones are faulted first... but instant in other cases
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> **Crash Gordon**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone programmed an Ademco Vista 20P? Whats a typical entry
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> *182:
>>>>>>>>> 1) door switches
>>>>>>>>> 2) IR motion
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Im after just a vanilla setup, the manual implies that *182 is
>>>>>>> required so thats what I was trying to get working.
>>>>>>> Sounds like that is not right so Im open. Is *56 the right field?
>>>>> after *97 and *56, the Vista finally came up and showed some life.
>>>>> testing is next
>>>>> Thanks!!!- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Something is still not right. The system is up, will arm and both
>>> pads are talking to the main box yet none of the sensors trip the
>>> alarm.
>>> The motion sensor is getting power and is functioning. The door
>>> switch worked on the old main box. I tried "test" and "chime" mod and
>>> they do nothing. There are no error mesages or faults.
>>> The old alarm had each connection wired with a series resistor. This
>>> manual doesnt really say if the resister should be connected
>>> door -------------------------- HI
>>> switch ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>>> IR -------------------------- HI
>>> sensor ---------------/\/\/\/\-----LO
>>> pwr ---------------------------aux +
>>> gnd ---------------------------aux -
>>> Is this correct? any suggestion on what to check?
>> turn on chime and remove one leg of a door circuit from the panel.
>>
>> If you don't hear the chime go back and review the programming for the
>> zones to make sure that you have the zone programmed for the proper zone
>> type and not just zeroed out.
>>
>> If you do hear the chime then you need to meter your wire and the door
>> contacts to find out which is malfunctioning.
>>
>> Motion detector zones won't chime but you can do those and the doors as
>> well using 'walk test' - its in manual...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> In the home stretch!!!....The doors were set to EOL instead of N/C so
> they are now working. The IR motion is not working
> though. Ive tried NO ever mode and it fails the walk test. The other
> zones report a fault and chime but the IR doesnt report
> anything. I enabled the sensor's LED and its getting power and
> "see's" movement. I have it set to TYPE4 and NC which
> allows the system to come READY. I have the inline resister on the
> LO side on the panel.
>
> any thoughts?
>
> Thanks


You don't need the resistor if your loops are programmed N/C (no EOL).
Set the IR loop as a perimeter/chime for testing after you remove the
resistor. I'd close by saying "RTFM", but the Ademco products are a bit
of a challenge to program for a novice. Glad things are workin' out.
Keep us posted on your progress.

Regards,
Frank Olson

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