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online DMP dealers? blueman 02-07-2007
Posted by Crash Gordon on February 8, 2007, 10:52 pm
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Gotta be because the 16 zone expanders eat 4 addresses each...easy to tell;
zones from 100-252 are LPX...if you have zones like 11-12-13-14 those are
address one keypad buss, 21-22-23-24 those are address 2 keypad buss and so
on until 84 then your done.

The zones on the keypad will definitely be keypad buss zones (duh).

If you're mostly on LPX you'll be ok for additional keypad(s).

If you want to email me your exact configuration spreadsheet I can tell you
fer sure. em: robosama at gmail dot com



| > you the brownstone nyc guy?
| >
| > you have a 485 in a house?
| >
| > ok only 4 keypads but what else...what other devices are using addresses
or
| > are you running expanders on the LPX bus??
| >
| > the 200 supports 8 device addresses so if you're using 4 for your kpds
and
| > you have say 4 x 714's or 1 x 16 zone zone expander then your
| > finished...unless you know some tricks.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > Do you know if you even can add a keypad to your system? There's
some
| > | > programming to be done and there are limitations on how many keypad
| > | > addresses and device addresses are being used with what keypad.
| > | >
| > | > What panel?
| > | > How many keypads now?
| > | > How many and what device addresses are currently in use?
| > | >
| > | > Depending on your answers, you may not even be able to add one.
| > |
| > | I have a DMP XR200-485 panel which can support up to 16 keypads though
| > | I currently only have 4 installed. I know how to program the
| > | keypads...
| > |
| > | Thanks
|
| I have 3 16-zone zone expanders plus each keypad of mine provides an
| additional 4 zones. So technically I have:
| 8 zones (XR200-485 panel)
| 48 zones (3 expanders)
| 16 zones (4 keypads)
| -------------------------
| 72 zones
|
| Of those, I currently have 51 zones in use which give me 21 more
| available.
|
| I believe that the keypads and the zone expanders are on the LX bus so
| they don't use up a zone.



Posted by Barney on February 7, 2007, 10:28 am
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> Well, the installer/service company recommended the system. Also, when I
> did a sanity check by googling for other peoples' experiences and even
> posting the proposal here on this newsgroup, the general response was
> that DMP was high end and one of the best...
>
> Nobody, however, mentioned the restrictive dealer situation...

if you want to diy you picked the wrong system.. why not go through your
dealer? are you having problems with them?



Posted by blueman on February 8, 2007, 12:19 am
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> > Well, the installer/service company recommended the system. Also, when I
> > did a sanity check by googling for other peoples' experiences and even
> > posting the proposal here on this newsgroup, the general response was
> > that DMP was high end and one of the best...
> >
> > Nobody, however, mentioned the restrictive dealer situation...
>
> if you want to diy you picked the wrong system.. why not go through your
> dealer? are you having problems with them?

No. My dealer is actually very high quality and high service (and high
price) -- in fact, they primarily target the high end/high income
segment. Their ideal customer is one who would rather pay them to come
change the battery in a smoke detector.

They will certainly sell me a new keypad as long as I pay for them to
install it. However, that would take all the fun out of it since I get
a lot of pleasure of learning things and doing them myself. The money
saved by diy is only secondary and relatively small.

They (like most dealers) make most of their money from monitoring...

Posted by Mark Leuck on February 8, 2007, 1:19 am
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> > > Well, the installer/service company recommended the system. Also, when
I
> > > did a sanity check by googling for other peoples' experiences and even
> > > posting the proposal here on this newsgroup, the general response was
> > > that DMP was high end and one of the best...
> > >
> > > Nobody, however, mentioned the restrictive dealer situation...
> >
> > if you want to diy you picked the wrong system.. why not go through
your
> > dealer? are you having problems with them?
>
> No. My dealer is actually very high quality and high service (and high
> price) -- in fact, they primarily target the high end/high income
> segment. Their ideal customer is one who would rather pay them to come
> change the battery in a smoke detector.
>
> They will certainly sell me a new keypad as long as I pay for them to
> install it. However, that would take all the fun out of it since I get
> a lot of pleasure of learning things and doing them myself. The money
> saved by diy is only secondary and relatively small.

How much money will be saved if you screw something up working on your
monitored system? Have you bothered to let them know you want to work on the
system?



Posted by blueman on February 8, 2007, 1:28 am
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> > > > Well, the installer/service company recommended the system. Also, when
> I
> > > > did a sanity check by googling for other peoples' experiences and even
> > > > posting the proposal here on this newsgroup, the general response was
> > > > that DMP was high end and one of the best...
> > > >
> > > > Nobody, however, mentioned the restrictive dealer situation...
> > >
> > > if you want to diy you picked the wrong system.. why not go through
> your
> > > dealer? are you having problems with them?
> >
> > No. My dealer is actually very high quality and high service (and high
> > price) -- in fact, they primarily target the high end/high income
> > segment. Their ideal customer is one who would rather pay them to come
> > change the battery in a smoke detector.
> >
> > They will certainly sell me a new keypad as long as I pay for them to
> > install it. However, that would take all the fun out of it since I get
> > a lot of pleasure of learning things and doing them myself. The money
> > saved by diy is only secondary and relatively small.
>
> How much money will be saved if you screw something up working on your
> monitored system? Have you bothered to let them know you want to work on the
> system?

I'm not doing it for the money saved -- I'm doing it for the
self-satisfaction. I have been building/repairing/designing with
electronics and computers for more than 30 years so I'm not too
worried about causing major damage -- if I do, I can almost always fix
it and if I can't, I am willing to assume the risk of paying for my
screw up.

I have a good relationship with the alarm company (which again is high
quality/high service) and several of their techies. In fact, they are
the ones who gave me all the codes to the system and set me up with
Remote Link which allows me to access and program every corner of my
DMP panel. In fact, their techs like working with me because I tend to
be more leading edge then most of their clients -- for example, I was
one of the first "guinea" pigs to try out the ICOM module for the DMP
system and we learned together how to use it. That doesn't mean that
they know every little thing I do to the system but they certainly are
not oblivious to the fact that I have the keys to do so...

Again, I repeat -- I am not anti-installers or dealers. I like my
dealer and they deliver great service. However, I still prefer the
pleasure of diy with the savings being only a secondary reward -- in
fact, if I valued my time appropriately there wouldn't be any savings
:)

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