Veritas R8 PIR problem

Veritas R8 PIR problem

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Veritas R8 PIR problem diy-newby 02-20-2008
Posted by Proguard Security on February 21, 2008, 10:00 am
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> When in part set, activating the kitchen PIR starts a countdown procedure
> where the code needs inputting in a certain amount of time before the
> alarm sounds.

That's not wrong, they must work in that way in part mode. Part set means
that the installer programms the interior PIRs to be off so you can live,
work, walk inside your house with the perimeter protection on (magnetic
contacts, ir beams etc). In the way you describe the behaviour of the PIRs,
i understand that the installer programmed them in that way to protect the
interior area even in part set mode but they change into delay zones in
order to give you time to unset the system. In the full arm mode you will
see that the PIR's will cause an immediate alarm.

Spyros Kintzonides
Proguard - Greece



Posted by Paul Ekins on February 20, 2008, 2:58 pm
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I am guessing from your post, the living room and kitchen PIR's are close to
each other, even possibly on same cable, and I expect you have caught a
cable when re-securing the floor boards.

The Veritas R8 does not have resistors to alert you to this type of fault,
the detectors work on a normally closed circuit. When the detector light
comes on a small relay opens the circuit causing the alarm to activate. This
is not happening because you have created another closed (short) circuit
with the screw.


> Hi guys
>
> We have a Veritas R8 alarm system. This morning we noticed that walking
> into the kitchen did not activate the part alarm unset procedure. I
> performed a walk test and both the kitchen and the living room PIR are not
> working.
>
> The red light in the PIR still works, it is just not activating the walk
> test procedure. Are PIR's self powered with an internal battery or do they
> take power from the main alarm panel? The reason I ask is I have put quite
> a few chipboard screws in the upstairs chipboard floor to cure loose /
> squeaking boards, and am now thinking worst case scenario that some how a
> screw has pierced a cable. But if the PIR takes power from the panel this
> hopefully cannot be the case as the red light in the PIR still comes on
> upon detection.
>
> Can PIR's fail but the red light still activate?
> Could this be a problem with the main alarm panel? Is there any other
> tests which I could carry out to narrow down the problem?
>
> TIA
>



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