The latest Brinkle in Jim's life.

The latest Brinkle in Jim's life.

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The latest Brinkle in Jim's life. Frank Olson 11-01-2007
Posted by Frank Olson on November 1, 2007, 12:26 am
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Apparently the Texas court has seen fit to hold Jim formally in
contempt. The severe repercussions they mentioned in the Order to
Appear have no doubt been set into motion. Jim will be "forced" to make
an appearance (probably sooner than later). I find it interesting that
one paragraph in the Order granting the Motion for Contempt states:

"Evidence submitted by Brink’s shows by clear and convincing evidence that
methods of resetting and circumventing lockout codes on Brink’s control
panels
have been disseminated through Defendant’s website. Additionally,
content from
Brink’s installation manuals has been disseminated through Defendant’s
website.
The same information has also been disseminated through a third party’s
website
with Defendant’s encouragement. All of these disseminations clearly violate
the Preliminary Injunction."

I'm not sure what "clear and convincing evidence" they speak of.
Brink's control panels are only slightly different from the ones I have
used (in fact they're made by the same companies) and for someone to
post the installation manuals is really no threat to me. I can
demonstrate just as clearly that Brinks panels are nothing more than
rebadged (and dumbed down) GE and Honeywell units. Even the "so called"
Brinks installation manuals clearly show the copyright (and "Brinks"
isn't mentioned).

Jim, FWIW, I feel for ya bud. I'm only "one" of what could become many
"third party" sites that have decided to distribute "Tech Help!". I'm
not doing it for money or for "glory". I'm doing it because I believe
the program is a useful tool for *any* technician to be able to have at
his disposal. I'm also not doing this because Jim is "encouraging" me
to do so.

Once again, I'm publicly requesting anyone at "Brinks" or a member of
their legal team to contact me and provide me with the location of any
Brinks intellectual property within the Tech Help! software. I know you
are monitoring this Newsgroup. My email is feolson at
yoursecuritysource dot com. For your information, I derive zero income
from http://www.yoursecuritysource.com (it simply isn't set up to "sell"
anything, nor was it intended to do so), so further emails to my hosting
provider requesting this is a useless pursuit. Until you can clearly
show me where "Tech Help!" violates Brinks Copyright, or illegally
disseminates their "Intellectual Property", I will continue to host it.

If anyone else wishes to share their thoughts, please do. If you
prefer, you can email me privately at the above address or send Jim a
note at jrojas@tech-man.com.

My thoughts and prayers are with Jim and his family. Good luck, Bro!!

Posted by Doug on November 1, 2007, 1:02 am
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Since Jim didn't respond in a timely manner to prevent a default judgment
and didn't show to the contempt hearing it matters little whether the claims
are valid or not, he had the opportunity to refute them and he chose not to.
The bottom line is that he should either have had adequate legal
representation
and played the game according to the rules or he should have thrown in his
hand when
he received the original cease & desist request.

I wish Jim the very best, but I fear he is committing financial suicide with
his current actions or inaction's.

Doug

--

> Apparently the Texas court has seen fit to hold Jim formally in contempt.
> The severe repercussions they mentioned in the Order to Appear have no
> doubt been set into motion. Jim will be "forced" to make an appearance
> (probably sooner than later). I find it interesting that one paragraph in
> the Order granting the Motion for Contempt states:
>
> "Evidence submitted by Brink's shows by clear and convincing evidence that
> methods of resetting and circumventing lockout codes on Brink's control
> panels
> have been disseminated through Defendant's website. Additionally, content
> from
> Brink's installation manuals has been disseminated through Defendant's
> website.
> The same information has also been disseminated through a third party's
> website
> with Defendant's encouragement. All of these disseminations clearly
> violate
> the Preliminary Injunction."
>
> I'm not sure what "clear and convincing evidence" they speak of. Brink's
> control panels are only slightly different from the ones I have used (in
> fact they're made by the same companies) and for someone to post the
> installation manuals is really no threat to me. I can demonstrate just as
> clearly that Brinks panels are nothing more than rebadged (and dumbed
> down) GE and Honeywell units. Even the "so called" Brinks installation
> manuals clearly show the copyright (and "Brinks" isn't mentioned).
>
> Jim, FWIW, I feel for ya bud. I'm only "one" of what could become many
> "third party" sites that have decided to distribute "Tech Help!". I'm not
> doing it for money or for "glory". I'm doing it because I believe the
> program is a useful tool for *any* technician to be able to have at his
> disposal. I'm also not doing this because Jim is "encouraging" me to do
> so.
>
> Once again, I'm publicly requesting anyone at "Brinks" or a member of
> their legal team to contact me and provide me with the location of any
> Brinks intellectual property within the Tech Help! software. I know you
> are monitoring this Newsgroup. My email is feolson at yoursecuritysource
> dot com. For your information, I derive zero income from
> http://www.yoursecuritysource.com (it simply isn't set up to "sell"
> anything, nor was it intended to do so), so further emails to my hosting
> provider requesting this is a useless pursuit. Until you can clearly show
> me where "Tech Help!" violates Brinks Copyright, or illegally disseminates
> their "Intellectual Property", I will continue to host it.
>
> If anyone else wishes to share their thoughts, please do. If you prefer,
> you can email me privately at the above address or send Jim a note at
> jrojas@tech-man.com.
>
> My thoughts and prayers are with Jim and his family. Good luck, Bro!!




Posted by Frank Olson on November 1, 2007, 1:41 am
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Doug wrote:
> Since Jim didn't respond in a timely manner to prevent a default judgment
> and didn't show to the contempt hearing it matters little whether the claims
> are valid or not, he had the opportunity to refute them and he chose not to.
> The bottom line is that he should either have had adequate legal
> representation
> and played the game according to the rules or he should have thrown in his
> hand when
> he received the original cease & desist request.
>
> I wish Jim the very best, but I fear he is committing financial suicide with
> his current actions or inaction's.
>
> Doug
>


I can't speak to the "financial suicide" part. From things I've seen
and heard (not personally experienced), defying a Court by telling them
that I'm disillusioned with "the system" *isn't* the best approach to
use. An Injunction like this one won't stand a great deal of scrutiny
(IMHO). All anyone has to demonstrate is that Brinks doesn't
manufacture their own equipment and that "the take over game" is one
that's played by any and all in the industry (some more so that others).
I suppose Brinks has a point about their customers gaining access to
the installation and programming manuals, but that's really a
"non-starter" as well (with a large number of service companies). We
always leave a copy of the programming manual on the premises (it's
tucked into a "stick-on" shipping wallet on the door of the main can).
If you have a customer that's moved into a house which happens to have
one of your systems and they're happy with their present provider then
why bother even trying to keep them? If someone wants to take the steps
to perform a hardware reset and "take-over" one of our panels, there's
really nothing preventing them from doing so (we don't use the firmware
lockout). The Ademco panels feature a more "robust" lock-out feature,
but on the few takeovers we've done where they're actually engaged, we
just swap out the main board and "Jim's your uncle".

The Brinks systems we've taken over are always upgraded to the Vista 20
(if the customer's used to extra button pushes) or a DSC 1832/1864 (and
contrary to what many have experienced with the latter, we've had pretty
good success with them). We toss the keypads, main board, transmitters
and other goodies into a box and (to date) have left them on the
premises for Brinks to pick up at their convenience. So far, not one of
the customers I've talked with has ever had a response from Brinks (or
had a technician request the return of the equipment). What does this
say about their "defending" their Property??

Posted by Doug on November 1, 2007, 10:42 am
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Jim telling the court "My website will be mirrored throughout the world. and
the Plaintiff and the Court is powerless to prevent it" isn't likely to help
matters either.



Doug


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>
> From things I've seen and heard (not personally experienced), defying a
> Court by telling them that I'm disillusioned with "the system" *isn't* the
> best approach to use.



Posted by Roland Moore on November 1, 2007, 12:38 pm
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Jim has yet to experience the legal system fully. He may feel that this is
all a one off injustice being applied against him. I think his comments are
from his heart, showing what he believes in hopes that others will see it
also. He can't yet fathom that this is business as usual and folks get
destroyed like this routinely. Perhaps it would be clearer for Jim to
picture all this as some aboriginal tribal dance of witchdoctors, and voodoo
slight of hands medicine men, dancing around a bonfire in hopes of divining
truth with animal entrails. That is more the level of reason and
understanding he'll find in today's courtroom unfortunately.

> Jim telling the court "My website will be mirrored throughout the world.
and
> the Plaintiff and the Court is powerless to prevent it" isn't likely to
help
> matters either.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
> --
>
message
> >
> > From things I've seen and heard (not personally experienced), defying a
> > Court by telling them that I'm disillusioned with "the system" *isn't*
the
> > best approach to use.
>
>



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