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The fire experts at it again Nick Markowitz Jr. 11-11-2007
Posted by Nick Markowitz Jr. on November 11, 2007, 1:45 pm
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Well I finnaly got to see the fire system that was installed at my wifes
church by one of the big prominant alarm companys here in pittsburgh and i
would be embarrased and horrified to put my name on it. wire sloppily hung
all over the place and not properly secured and that goes for the conduit
and instead of using addressable smokes off the vista 128 panel they ran 4
wire smokes everywhere meaning extra cables every where what an embaarssment
the only reason ifigure they do not use addressable is becuse none of there
installers and techs are smart enough to use them . yea but they go around
calling them selves the fire alarm experts in pittsburgh and there the same
company that hanged a bull rope down a shaft to install fire wiring on it.



Posted by Frank Olson on November 11, 2007, 8:16 pm
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Nick Markowitz Jr. wrote:
> Well I finnaly got to see the fire system that was installed at my wifes
> church by one of the big prominant alarm companys here in pittsburgh and i
> would be embarrased and horrified to put my name on it. wire sloppily hung
> all over the place and not properly secured and that goes for the conduit
> and instead of using addressable smokes off the vista 128 panel they ran 4
> wire smokes everywhere meaning extra cables every where what an embaarssment
> the only reason ifigure they do not use addressable is becuse none of there
> installers and techs are smart enough to use them . yea but they go around
> calling them selves the fire alarm experts in pittsburgh and there the same
> company that hanged a bull rope down a shaft to install fire wiring on it.
>
>


That reminds me of an installation I saw the other day. Exposed fire
cable everywhere. Tacked to the bottom of beams and stretched across
open bays. I'm sure it was a "DIY" job and that there was never a
permit pulled. The amazing thing is that it was VERIFIED by the
equipment manufacturer. In Canada, the Verification Standard
(ULC/CAN4-S537) refers to the Installation Standard (ULC/CAN4-S524) and
the Building and Electrical Codes. Obviously the individual performing
the Verification Inspection decided to utilize his own standard. I
think most here call it a "paycheque" ("paycheck" for you folks in
"Bush-Land").

Posted by Nick Markowitz Jr. on November 12, 2007, 7:33 am
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The bad thing is city of Pittburgh passed it.
> Nick Markowitz Jr. wrote:
>> Well I finnaly got to see the fire system that was installed at my wifes
>> church by one of the big prominant alarm companys here in pittsburgh and
>> i would be embarrased and horrified to put my name on it. wire sloppily
>> hung all over the place and not properly secured and that goes for the
>> conduit and instead of using addressable smokes off the vista 128 panel
>> they ran 4 wire smokes everywhere meaning extra cables every where what
>> an embaarssment the only reason ifigure they do not use addressable is
>> becuse none of there installers and techs are smart enough to use them .
>> yea but they go around calling them selves the fire alarm experts in
>> pittsburgh and there the same company that hanged a bull rope down a
>> shaft to install fire wiring on it.
>
>
> That reminds me of an installation I saw the other day. Exposed fire
> cable everywhere. Tacked to the bottom of beams and stretched across open
> bays. I'm sure it was a "DIY" job and that there was never a permit
> pulled. The amazing thing is that it was VERIFIED by the equipment
> manufacturer. In Canada, the Verification Standard (ULC/CAN4-S537) refers
> to the Installation Standard (ULC/CAN4-S524) and the Building and
> Electrical Codes. Obviously the individual performing the Verification
> Inspection decided to utilize his own standard. I think most here call it
> a "paycheque" ("paycheck" for you folks in "Bush-Land").



Posted by Robert L Bass on November 12, 2007, 11:07 am
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>
> The bad thing is city of Pittburgh passed it.

Hi Nick,

How are you doing? Making progress against the C?

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Posted by Nick Markowitz Jr. on November 14, 2007, 6:20 pm
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Sick as dog this week had chemo again and 3 days of misery they put me on
champhor? from the other stuf and its terrible giving me all kinf=d of
strong anti nausea to stop it


>>
>> The bad thing is city of Pittburgh passed it.
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> How are you doing? Making progress against the C?
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass



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