Suggest for placement of ADT/Ademco wireless window sensors

Suggest for placement of ADT/Ademco wireless window sensors
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Suggest for placement of ADT/Ademco wireless window sensors canyonblue 10-14-2006
Posted by on October 14, 2006, 2:23 am
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I am having an ADT system installed (ADT direct, not a reseller) and
will be using their rebranded Ademco wireless window sensors on 18
windows on my main level. The windows are new, warrantied, and white
vinyl which is why I am going wireless.

The problem is related to my window blinds. My two inch blinds (which I
always leave in the full down position but swivel open and close daily)
leave less than a 1/2 inch between the back of the blinds when open and
the window surface. This appears to be less than the depth of the
sensor if we place it on the vertical side of the lower window (they
are single hung windows that have the bottom window slide up and down).
This would push the blinds out a slight bit (they would be touching the
sensor) and that seems unacceptable. The same issue exists if I mount
the sensor to the bottom sill as the blinds would rest on the sensor
which would look bad and perhaps cause the same issue. I can't mount
the sensors horizontally on the top corners of the bottom window (with
the magnet in the track) because the latches for the window to rotate
into the house are located there...

The only place left I can think of? DEAD CENTER of the horizontal top
of the bottom window with the magnet on the glass surface of the upper
non-moving window. Do you think this will be horribly ugly? The sensor
matches the color of the white vinyl windows and the blinds should help
concel the boxes but I am really concerned about the look of the whole
deal.

Any suggestions on other mounting options.


Posted by G. Morgan on October 14, 2006, 3:19 am
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On 13 Oct 2006 23:23:41 -0700, canyonblue@gmail.com wrote:

>Any suggestions on other mounting options.


Let the alarm company provide the solution, that's what they're paid
for.

I feel sorry for the installer coming to your place == you're gonna
second guess him every step of the way and follow him around like a
puppy dog, aren't ya?

--

-Graham
(remove the double e's to email)

Posted by on October 14, 2006, 3:39 am
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> Let the alarm company provide the solution, that's what they're paid
> for.
>
> I feel sorry for the installer coming to your place == you're gonna
> second guess him every step of the way and follow him around like a
> puppy dog, aren't ya?

wow, just wow.

not quite the answer i was expecting. because i *value* my new home,
and my family i have done quite a bit of research, yes, including
getting quotes and professional opinions from several alarm companies,
including major nationals as well as independent companies. because of
the nature of my windows a wireless install is called for, yet
significant hurdles remain and all the alarms companies i spoke with
have been less than clear how their wireless soultions will be mounted
to attempt to preserve the look of the window since i have a particular
kind of blind. since i am concerned, and rightfully so based on posts
in this very forum, that some installers will "lick 'em and stick 'em"
when they show to my house i would like to be prepared with reasonable
suggests from experienced folks if their suggestions aren't superior. I
am afterall the home owner and customer.

will i follow them around? no. will i be open to their professional
opinions and suggests... yes. will i be involved and understand the
logic of every details of my extensive security system, ie. placement,
operations, aestitics etc. ... you bet!

NOW IF ANYONE IS WILLING TO HELP ME i have a photo of what all the
windows in general look like (before the blinds were placed.)

http://static.flickr.com/108/269087792_eb5194c6c8_o.jpg


Posted by G. Morgan on October 14, 2006, 4:13 am
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On 14 Oct 2006 00:39:33 -0700, canyonblue@gmail.com wrote:

>wow, just wow.

Exactly my thought when I read your THREE posts.

>
>not quite the answer i was expecting. because i *value* my new home,
>and my family i have done quite a bit of research, yes, including
>getting quotes and professional opinions from several alarm companies,
>including major nationals as well as independent companies. because of
>the nature of my windows a wireless install is called for, yet
>significant hurdles remain and all the alarms companies i spoke with
>have been less than clear how their wireless soultions will be mounted
>to attempt to preserve the look of the window since i have a particular
>kind of blind. since i am concerned, and rightfully so based on posts
>in this very forum, that some installers will "lick 'em and stick 'em"
>when they show to my house i would like to be prepared with reasonable
>suggests from experienced folks if their suggestions aren't superior. I
>am afterall the home owner and customer.

Okay, that's reasonable. I just got the feeling from the tone of your
posts that you were going to be telling the installer how do his job.

I have two suggestions for the windows. First, I don't know if you're
aware that there is a separate contact point inside the 5816
transmitter that will allow an external window contact to be used. So
in x-mitter can be mounted below the sill, or somewhere else out or
the way and just run a short jumper to mini-mag contacts that will
actually go on the windows. Second, if the internal contact is to be
used and you lack a small amount of clearance for the blinds there is
a low profile transmitter available, PN 5816MN.



>will i follow them around? no. will i be open to their professional
>opinions and suggests... yes. will i be involved and understand the
>logic of every details of my extensive security system, ie. placement,
>operations, aestitics etc. ... you bet!

That is good... and rare actually. Hopefully you don't get a 'dud'
installer. If you do --politely excuse him and call the installation
manager to get someone you feel comfortable with.




--

-Graham
(remove the double e's to email)

Posted by on October 15, 2006, 9:52 pm
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G. Morgan wrote:
> On 14 Oct 2006 00:39:33 -0700, canyonblue@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >wow, just wow.
>
> Exactly my thought when I read your THREE posts.
>
> >
> Okay, that's reasonable. I just got the feeling from the tone of your
> posts that you were going to be telling the installer how do his job.
>
> I have two suggestions for the windows. First, I don't know if you're
> aware that there is a separate contact point inside the 5816
> transmitter that will allow an external window contact to be used. So
> in x-mitter can be mounted below the sill, or somewhere else out or
> the way and just run a short jumper to mini-mag contacts that will
> actually go on the windows. Second, if the internal contact is to be
> used and you lack a small amount of clearance for the blinds there is
> a low profile transmitter available, PN 5816MN.

> That is good... and rare actually. Hopefully you don't get a 'dud'
> installer. If you do --politely excuse him and call the installation
> manager to get someone you feel comfortable with.

never thought i would say this after your first post to me, but this is
an EXCELLENT response and truly useful.


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