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Smoke detector question Robertm 08-23-2005
Posted by Robertm on August 23, 2005, 8:35 am
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I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke detector
I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so I pull the
battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this problem with
it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want the fire
department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of rise
instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a way to
disable protection for an hour in that zone?

Bob




Posted by Crash Gordon on August 23, 2005, 6:47 am
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I don't put smokes in kitchens or in family rooms that have fireplaces. I'll
use a rate of rise heat instead - I'll put a smoke just outside the kitchen
but not in it...each app. is different.

The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you don't
have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course you will
use fire-rated wire.






>I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
>adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke detector
>I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so I pull the
>battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this problem with
>it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want the fire
>department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of rise
>instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a way to
>disable protection for an hour in that zone?
>
> Bob
>




Posted by Robertm on August 23, 2005, 10:08 am
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> The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you
> don't have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course
> you will use fire-rated wire.

It's in the old part of the house so I'm using wireless. Cost a little more
but I won't have to retrofit wiring. The new part of the house is hardwired.

Bob




Posted by Mike Sokoly on August 23, 2005, 8:08 pm
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Crash Gordon wrote:
> I don't put smokes in kitchens or in family rooms that have fireplaces. I'll
> use a rate of rise heat instead - I'll put a smoke just outside the kitchen
> but not in it...each app. is different.
>
> The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you don't
> have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course you will
> use fire-rated wire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
>>adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke detector
>>I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so I pull the
>>battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this problem with
>>it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want the fire
>>department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of rise
>>instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a way to
>>disable protection for an hour in that zone?
>>
>>Bob
>>
>
>
>
Hey Crash,
THANK YOU for informing him about using fire rated wire!!!!!!!!!!!
Out here on Long Island , I'm doing a 1.5 Mil house and right NEXT DOOR
(same design house ) is a semi large LI Company who shall remain
nameless (located in Holbrook, and the "specialize" in Audio) who has
prewired ALL the smokes and heats with 22/4 quad wire! Licensing MEANS
nothing! EDUCATION is a MUST. (and he's not even an electrician BUT his
chief installer/partner worked as a counter jerk for ADI for years!
Guess he learned NOTHING!
Mike Sokoly
MES Security Systems



Posted by Crash Gordon on August 23, 2005, 7:57 pm
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I run into that all the time..quad for smokes...I won't install on it if its
fired that way...but at least I can use it to pull new firewire.

BUT almost as bad is when someone does run firewire...but 2 conductor home
runs to each smoke. Sheesh...there's a buncho morons out there.

Hey, I'm from Lawnguylan' originally.



> Crash Gordon wrote:
>> I don't put smokes in kitchens or in family rooms that have fireplaces.
>> I'll use a rate of rise heat instead - I'll put a smoke just outside the
>> kitchen but not in it...each app. is different.
>>
>> The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you
>> don't have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course
>> you will use fire-rated wire.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
>>>adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke
>>>detector I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so
>>>I pull the battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this
>>>problem with it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want
>>>the fire department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of
>>>rise instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a
>>>way to disable protection for an hour in that zone?
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hey Crash,
> THANK YOU for informing him about using fire rated wire!!!!!!!!!!!
> Out here on Long Island , I'm doing a 1.5 Mil house and right NEXT DOOR
> (same design house ) is a semi large LI Company who shall remain nameless
> (located in Holbrook, and the "specialize" in Audio) who has prewired ALL
> the smokes and heats with 22/4 quad wire! Licensing MEANS nothing!
> EDUCATION is a MUST. (and he's not even an electrician BUT his
> chief installer/partner worked as a counter jerk for ADI for years!
> Guess he learned NOTHING!
> Mike Sokoly
> MES Security Systems
>
>




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