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Safe Room Door Lock Crash Gordon 02-08-2006
Posted by Bob Worthy on February 9, 2006, 11:37 am
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Alarman to the rescue. Thats one way to be a filter buster. Thanks for
passing it along.

>
> > I have Worthless filtered so I don't usually read his drivel.
> snip
>
>
> "Robert L Bass" wrote in message
>
> > > I doubt though that a screwdriver could pry opened (towards you) a
600lb
> mag
> > > lock...I've tried blasting against one that opened away and couldn't
do
> it
> > > with my massive super strength :-)
> >
> > I forced a 600-lb lock open with my shoulder once and I'm only of
> > average strength -- not exactly a weight lifter.
>
> I think everyone here has already made that assumption
>
> > If there's a wall or
> > other rigid, parallel structure nearby, a strong man could open
> > the door using leg pressure.
>
> Not when the door swings outward. Please read and understand the OP post
> before you grace us with your vast knowledge.
>
> >It's surprising the amount of
> > pressure even an average adult can deliver in a leg press.
>
> This coming from not exactly a weight lifter by his own admission.
>
> > Consider the leverage of a 12" long screwdriver with 1/2"
>
> You sure like that fraction. Didn't we hear the same thing about a drill
bit
> just recently.
>
> > inserted into the space between the door and the frame. There's
> > a 23/1 mechanical advantage.
>
> The force would be downward, not outward, with only a 1/2" insertion on 1
> 3/4" door. The best the perp could expect is to take a chunk out of the
door
> and only if the shank of the screwdriver didn't bend upward first.
>
> > The thief only has to apply about
> > 30-35 lbs of force. Note: If it were linear motion the figure
> > would be just over 26 pounds, but the screwdriver is describing a
> > circular arc so the required force in a tangential direction
> > increases somewhat.
>
> Have to break out the old slide rule for that line of BS there, Robert?
> >
> > If the door opens away from the lock it's even easier
>
> Have you ever seen a door open into the lock? BAHAHAHAHAHA....Do you know
> how to spell Door Stop?? Stop Robert...I can't take it any more...I am LOL
> until my side hurts. Why don't you drop the 4 online stores and do Stand
Up?
> I don't think people would pay but you are hilarious.
>
> -- take a
> > run and hit it with your shoulder. I weigh just over 200 pounds.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHA....just?......just?
>
> > At a 15 mph sprint that's more than enough force to pop a 600-lb
> > lock.
>
> Lets think about this for kicks and giggles. A safe room is probably...
what
> 6'X8'? Maybe 8'X10'? and you want someone to get to a 15mph sprint in that
> distance. Riiiightttt! And why should they do this? To get out? Remember
the
> door swings out. All they have to do is hit the rex button. Why take a
> chance on injuring their shoulder? Next, a perp could take a 15mph run,
> which is questionable inside any structure, at it and if the door is
> installed properly, with or without a mag of any size most likely will
> bounce off the door and land on his ass. Why, because, again Robert, the
> door swings outward.
> Your propensity to quickly jump in and cast your opinions vastly
outweights
> your understanding of what you read. Your so easy, but keep it coming, if
> for nothing more than kicks and giggles.
>
> With a 1200 pound lock it would be significantly harder to
> > pop.
>
> Astute observation
>
> > If you use an 1800 pound lock the required force would
> > destroy the door before the magnet would give way.
>
> Brilliant
>
> >Most folks
> > will part with a few extra dollars if they can see a significant
> > advantage in the hardware.
>
> As presented by RLB.
>
>
>
>



Posted by Crash Gordon on February 8, 2006, 11:21 pm
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Money aint a big concern, so maybe I'll go higher poundage, doesnt cost that
much more...size may be an issue though.


| Crash,
|
| I have Worthless filtered so I don't usually read his drivel.
| What I shared with you was for your benefit since you asked for
| opinions on the plan -- not some sort of contest to show who
| knows best.
|
| If you believe a 600 pound lock will hold, go for it. I'd try to
| get the client to spring for a stronger lock if he's keeping
| valuable paintings and such in there. However, you know the
| client and you probably have a good handle on what he wants.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| Bass Burglar Alarms
| The Online DIY Store
| http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
|
|
|



Posted by Robert L Bass on February 9, 2006, 1:04 am
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> Money aint a big concern, so maybe I'll
> go higher poundage, doesnt cost that
> much more...size may be an issue though.

This being a PG rated newsgroup, I'll let that one go by. :^)


--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

Posted by Chub on February 8, 2006, 9:18 pm
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Frank, you might have to add this one to your classic Doug L post for future
reference.

>
> "Robert L Bass" wrote in message
>
>> > I doubt though that a screwdriver could pry opened (towards you) a
>> > 600lb
> mag
>> > lock...I've tried blasting against one that opened away and couldn't do
> it
>> > with my massive super strength :-)
>>
>> I forced a 600-lb lock open with my shoulder once and I'm only of
>> average strength -- not exactly a weight lifter.
>
> I think everyone here has already made that assumption
>
>> If there's a wall or
>> other rigid, parallel structure nearby, a strong man could open
>> the door using leg pressure.
>
> Not when the door swings outward. Please read and understand the OP post
> before you grace us with your vast knowledge.
>
> >It's surprising the amount of
>> pressure even an average adult can deliver in a leg press.
>
> This coming from not exactly a weight lifter by his own admission.
>
>> Consider the leverage of a 12" long screwdriver with 1/2"
>
> You sure like that fraction. Didn't we hear the same thing about a drill
> bit
> just recently.
>
>> inserted into the space between the door and the frame. There's
>> a 23/1 mechanical advantage.
>
> The force would be downward, not outward, with only a 1/2" insertion on 1
> 3/4" door. The best the perp could expect is to take a chunk out of the
> door
> and only if the shank of the screwdriver didn't bend upward first.
>
>> The thief only has to apply about
>> 30-35 lbs of force. Note: If it were linear motion the figure
>> would be just over 26 pounds, but the screwdriver is describing a
>> circular arc so the required force in a tangential direction
>> increases somewhat.
>
> Have to break out the old slide rule for that line of BS there, Robert?
>>
>> If the door opens away from the lock it's even easier
>
> Have you ever seen a door open into the lock? BAHAHAHAHAHA....Do you know
> how to spell Door Stop?? Stop Robert...I can't take it any more...I am LOL
> until my side hurts. Why don't you drop the 4 online stores and do Stand
> Up?
> I don't think people would pay but you are hilarious.
>
> -- take a
>> run and hit it with your shoulder. I weigh just over 200 pounds.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHA....just?......just?
>
>> At a 15 mph sprint that's more than enough force to pop a 600-lb
>> lock.
>
> Lets think about this for kicks and giggles. A safe room is probably...
> what
> 6'X8'? Maybe 8'X10'? and you want someone to get to a 15mph sprint in that
> distance. Riiiightttt! And why should they do this? To get out? Remember
> the
> door swings out. All they have to do is hit the rex button. Why take a
> chance on injuring their shoulder? Next, a perp could take a 15mph run,
> which is questionable inside any structure, at it and if the door is
> installed properly, with or without a mag of any size most likely will
> bounce off the door and land on his ass. Why, because, again Robert, the
> door swings outward.
> Your propensity to quickly jump in and cast your opinions vastly
> outweights
> your understanding of what you read. Your so easy, but keep it coming, if
> for nothing more than kicks and giggles.
>
> With a 1200 pound lock it would be significantly harder to
>> pop.
>
> Astute observation
>
>> If you use an 1800 pound lock the required force would
>> destroy the door before the magnet would give way.
>
> Brilliant
>
>>Most folks
>> will part with a few extra dollars if they can see a significant
>> advantage in the hardware.
>
> As presented by RLB.
>
>
>



Posted by Norm Mugford on February 9, 2006, 8:26 am
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Mr. BAss wrote:

"I have Worthless filtered so I don't usually read his drivel".

Congradulations Bob! Welcome to the "The Fat BAss Filtered List"
You're in great company.......It's so nice to be Fat BAss Filtered.

Mr. BAss wrote:

"Just over 200 pounds"

Sure Mr. BAss...70 ain't just over.......
It would be fair to say you're just under 300 pounds.....

You're lieing again Mr. BAss.

Let's see ..... was that 30 pounds under 300, or 29 pounds,
or 28 pounds, or 27 pounds, or 26 pounds, or 25 pounds.......

Sounds like another lie you write about.
How many years have you been in the business?

You lie Mr. BAss..... You Lie.......

Norm Mugford



>
> "Robert L Bass" wrote in message
>
>> > I doubt though that a screwdriver could pry opened (towards you) a
>> > 600lb
> mag
>> > lock...I've tried blasting against one that opened away and couldn't do
> it
>> > with my massive super strength :-)
>>
>> I forced a 600-lb lock open with my shoulder once and I'm only of
>> average strength -- not exactly a weight lifter.
>
> I think everyone here has already made that assumption
>
>> If there's a wall or
>> other rigid, parallel structure nearby, a strong man could open
>> the door using leg pressure.
>
> Not when the door swings outward. Please read and understand the OP post
> before you grace us with your vast knowledge.
>
> >It's surprising the amount of
>> pressure even an average adult can deliver in a leg press.
>
> This coming from not exactly a weight lifter by his own admission.
>
>> Consider the leverage of a 12" long screwdriver with 1/2"
>
> You sure like that fraction. Didn't we hear the same thing about a drill
> bit
> just recently.
>
>> inserted into the space between the door and the frame. There's
>> a 23/1 mechanical advantage.
>
> The force would be downward, not outward, with only a 1/2" insertion on 1
> 3/4" door. The best the perp could expect is to take a chunk out of the
> door
> and only if the shank of the screwdriver didn't bend upward first.
>
>> The thief only has to apply about
>> 30-35 lbs of force. Note: If it were linear motion the figure
>> would be just over 26 pounds, but the screwdriver is describing a
>> circular arc so the required force in a tangential direction
>> increases somewhat.
>
> Have to break out the old slide rule for that line of BS there, Robert?
>>
>> If the door opens away from the lock it's even easier
>
> Have you ever seen a door open into the lock? BAHAHAHAHAHA....Do you know
> how to spell Door Stop?? Stop Robert...I can't take it any more...I am LOL
> until my side hurts. Why don't you drop the 4 online stores and do Stand
> Up?
> I don't think people would pay but you are hilarious.
>
> -- take a
>> run and hit it with your shoulder. I weigh just over 200 pounds.
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHA....just?......just?
>
>> At a 15 mph sprint that's more than enough force to pop a 600-lb
>> lock.
>
> Lets think about this for kicks and giggles. A safe room is probably...
> what
> 6'X8'? Maybe 8'X10'? and you want someone to get to a 15mph sprint in that
> distance. Riiiightttt! And why should they do this? To get out? Remember
> the
> door swings out. All they have to do is hit the rex button. Why take a
> chance on injuring their shoulder? Next, a perp could take a 15mph run,
> which is questionable inside any structure, at it and if the door is
> installed properly, with or without a mag of any size most likely will
> bounce off the door and land on his ass. Why, because, again Robert, the
> door swings outward.
> Your propensity to quickly jump in and cast your opinions vastly
> outweights
> your understanding of what you read. Your so easy, but keep it coming, if
> for nothing more than kicks and giggles.
>
> With a 1200 pound lock it would be significantly harder to
>> pop.
>
> Astute observation
>
>> If you use an 1800 pound lock the required force would
>> destroy the door before the magnet would give way.
>
> Brilliant
>
>>Most folks
>> will part with a few extra dollars if they can see a significant
>> advantage in the hardware.
>
> As presented by RLB.
>
>
>


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