Re: security system advice

Re: security system advice
Secure Home | Search | About
Login Password
Register Now! Lost Password?
 CCTV, Alarms and other Physical Security    Post an article   get this group's latest topics as an RSS feed add this group's latest topics to your My MSN content add this group's latest topics to your My Yahoo content add this group's latest topics to your Google content
Subject Author Date
Re: security system advice Jim 04-08-2008
Posted by Jim on April 8, 2008, 12:41 am
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
On Apr 3, 5:21=EF=BF=BDpm, chambers...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have recently had a number of break-ins at a rental property I am
> trying to renovate. =EF=BF=BDI have been doing a total rewire since the ho=
use
> was built in 1900 and still has a couple of exterior fuse panels on
> the back porch (it was a duplex I'm converting back into a single
> family house) =EF=BF=BDA day after I had the house ready for rough wiring
> inspection thieves broke into the 6' crawlspace and cut and stole all
> of the wire running under the house. =EF=BF=BDI secured the crawlspace a
> little better, had the house rewired and nearly ready for inspection
> again and the thieves returned, broke off the lock and cut the wire
> again...I'm fed up and need a security system (at least
> temporarily).
>
> I'm looking at the DSC 1832. =EF=BF=BDI want to put a motion sensor under =
the
> house near the new wire breaker box where all of the wires come under
> the house with both a siren under and outside of the house. =EF=BF=BDI als=
o
> purchased a couple of pepper spray release traps that work off of the
> 12VDC bell signal(one for under the house and one for in the house).
> I plan on placing another motion sensor in the house in the hall where
> the breaker panel is located because that is where the thieves will
> most likely go if they can't get in under the house. (I put a serious
> lock mechanism on the door to get under the house).
>

I never heard of Pepper spay traps.

Where did you get them? Got a product name or a website?
I can think of a place to use one right now!

Posted by alarman on April 8, 2008, 12:46 am
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
Jim wrote:

> I never heard of Pepper spay traps.
>
> Where did you get them? Got a product name or a website?
> I can think of a place to use one right now!


Oh, absolutely. I have several "practical" applications in mind.
<snicker>
--
js

He who laughs last.......thinks the slowest



Posted by Jim on April 8, 2008, 10:48 pm
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
> Jim wrote:
> > I never heard of Pepper spay traps.
>
> > Where did you get them? =EF=BF=BD Got a product name or a website?
> > I can think of a place to use one right now!
>
> Oh, absolutely. I have several "practical" applications in mind.
> <snicker>
> --

Actually, I do.

With the value of copper and metal going up, there's been a lot of
thievery of metal going on around here. Plumbing shop was relieved of
over $70,000.00 in copper a few months ago on Long Island. I've got a
General Contractor who stores his metal in a shanty type structure in
back of his shop and it's been hit a few times in the last year or so.
Not much in value but costly when he thinks he's got material and has
to stop a job because it's not there. I was thinking that a quick way
to get them out of there would be with some kind of pepper spray. With
CCTV I think he'd just have the pleasure of watching some stranger
take his stuff and he'd need lighting and etc, etc. And once he stops
who evers doing this, he's left with a very expensive CCTV system that
never gets used anymore.

I see that a company by the name of Revel in Pittsburg has a multi
canister device activated by 12 volts, but it's only for indoor use. I
don't see anything for outdoor use. I can imagine they don't recommend
it for outdoors because of the wind, freezing and other environmental
reasons, but I'm going to call and see what they say. The area's small
so maybe if the device is sealed or protected from the weather, it
would do the job.

Posted by Nomen Nescio on April 9, 2008, 12:30 am
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
>With the value of copper and metal going up, there's been a lot of
>thievery of metal going on around here. Plumbing shop was relieved of
>over $70,000.00 in copper a few months ago on Long Island. I've got a
>General Contractor who stores his metal in a shanty type structure in
>back of his shop and it's been hit a few times in the last year or so.
>Not much in value but costly when he thinks he's got material and has
>to stop a job because it's not there. I was thinking that a quick way
>to get them out of there would be with some kind of pepper spray. With
>CCTV I think he'd just have the pleasure of watching some stranger
>take his stuff and he'd need lighting and etc, etc. And once he stops
>who evers doing this, he's left with a very expensive CCTV system that
>never gets used anymore.

You might want to look into smoke generators. These were developed in the
UK about ten or fifteen years ago as a way to thwart smash and grab
burglaries. They fill up the area with a dense nontoxic smoke in a matter
of seconds. If they can't see, they can't steal.

Cross-zoning of initiating devices is recommended. :-) Obviously, this
system doesn't get along well with smoke detectors, and if the local fire
department doesn't know about the system, they may conclude the building is
on fire.

smokecloak.com is one of the original companies; there are others.


Posted by Jim on April 9, 2008, 11:17 pm
If you were  Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
>
> You might want to look into smoke generators. =EF=BF=BD These were develop=
ed in the
> UK about ten or fifteen years ago as a way to thwart smash and grab
> burglaries. =EF=BF=BDThey fill up the area with a dense nontoxic smoke in =
a matter
> of seconds. =EF=BF=BDIf they can't see, they can't steal.
>
> Cross-zoning of initiating devices is recommended. :-) =EF=BF=BDObviously,=
this
> system doesn't get along well with smoke detectors, and if the local fire
> department doesn't know about the system, they may conclude the building i=
s
> on fire.
>
> smokecloak.com is one of the original companies; there are others.

Yes, I know about them but they're also for inside and if I remember
right, they're quite costly. I just think something that gets them out
of there once or twice will end it. I don't think the customer should
pay a lot, for something like CCTV, etc, that's only going to be used
a few times .... at the most. But it's going to be up to him. Depends
on how much of an inconvenience and cost it is for him to lose the
material.

Similar ThreadsPosted
Re: Best Advice For Security System November 24, 2005, 2:30 pm
Re: Best Advice For Security System November 24, 2005, 2:31 pm
Re: Best Advice For Security System November 24, 2005, 2:33 pm
Re: security system advice April 3, 2008, 10:12 pm
Re: security system advice April 3, 2008, 10:14 pm
Security DVR Advice Needed August 8, 2005, 12:13 pm
Problem With ADT System - Need Advice December 24, 2006, 9:47 am
Re: security camera - save to disk advice please February 16, 2008, 11:21 am
need unbiased advice about lynx system August 18, 2005, 8:39 pm
Advice on a cheap home CCTV system October 4, 2005, 7:36 pm

The site map in XML format XML site map

Contact Us | Privacy Policy