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Posted by WYSIWYG on October 22, 2005, 9:04 pm
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I recently purchased a Radionics D7212B1 panel from my local surplus store
in the hopes of building a simple, non-monitored alarm for my house. The
board is dated 9743 and numbered 7212. The EPROM on the board is labeled (C)
Radionics 1995, D7212B1 U4, 26-06962-0316. The Lithium back up battery was
shot (<0.5Vdc) so I replaced it with a fresh one. The board seems to power
up and run. It beeps, the LEDs blink, it seems to respond to a battery being
attached, it answers incoming calls, data and power appears to be on the
Peripheral device connection pins. However, when I connect a D1255 panel to
it, the panel displays "Call For Service" about a minute after power on. The
manual says this means no communication is established between the D7212 and
the D1255. Is there something I need to do to get this to work so I can use
it?
Thanks.
Bob
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Posted by Crash Gordon on October 22, 2005, 5:00 pm
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Forget it even if you had a programmer for it, it ain't easy to program.
9743 means that the warranty ran out the 43rd week of 1997, so the board's
an oldie.
If you know exactly how you want it configured you may be able to send it to
someone who has a 5200 programmer who happens to have old product handlers
still loaded in the programmer to program it for you.
IF the panel still works after you changed the lithium battery.
|I recently purchased a Radionics D7212B1 panel from my local surplus store
| in the hopes of building a simple, non-monitored alarm for my house. The
| board is dated 9743 and numbered 7212. The EPROM on the board is labeled
(C)
| Radionics 1995, D7212B1 U4, 26-06962-0316. The Lithium back up battery was
| shot (<0.5Vdc) so I replaced it with a fresh one. The board seems to power
| up and run. It beeps, the LEDs blink, it seems to respond to a battery
being
| attached, it answers incoming calls, data and power appears to be on the
| Peripheral device connection pins. However, when I connect a D1255 panel
to
| it, the panel displays "Call For Service" about a minute after power on.
The
| manual says this means no communication is established between the D7212
and
| the D1255. Is there something I need to do to get this to work so I can
use
| it?
|
| Thanks.
|
| Bob
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Posted by WYSIWYG on October 23, 2005, 2:04 am
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron so I think the board hardware is OK.
Really depends on Radionics' software design as to if any "magic" needs to
be retained in the RAM to make things work. If so, I'm sure it was blown
away years ago.
So I understand I must have a 5200 programmer to initialize the board?
I see 5200 programmers on sale on ebay all the time. What "product handlers"
would I need to fully program the board?
Are there no other tools to program these boards?
Is the command set to the board documented anywhere?
Is it normal that an uninitialized board would not talk to a D1255
controller? If I get it talking to the controller, can I program everything
from it?
While I'm firing off questions, I also purchased a few OCTPOPITS D8128A. The
documentation is contradictory regarding which versions of these A,B,C, or D
are compatible with this panel. What were the differences between these
revisions?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm eager to get this thing working.
Thanks again for any help.
Bob
> Forget it even if you had a programmer for it, it ain't easy to program.
> 9743 means that the warranty ran out the 43rd week of 1997, so the board's
> an oldie.
> If you know exactly how you want it configured you may be able to send it
to
> someone who has a 5200 programmer who happens to have old product handlers
> still loaded in the programmer to program it for you.
> IF the panel still works after you changed the lithium battery.
>
>
> |I recently purchased a Radionics D7212B1 panel from my local surplus
store
> | in the hopes of building a simple, non-monitored alarm for my house. The
> | board is dated 9743 and numbered 7212. The EPROM on the board is labeled
> (C)
> | Radionics 1995, D7212B1 U4, 26-06962-0316. The Lithium back up battery
was
> | shot (<0.5Vdc) so I replaced it with a fresh one. The board seems to
power
> | up and run. It beeps, the LEDs blink, it seems to respond to a battery
> being
> | attached, it answers incoming calls, data and power appears to be on the
> | Peripheral device connection pins. However, when I connect a D1255 panel
> to
> | it, the panel displays "Call For Service" about a minute after power on.
> The
> | manual says this means no communication is established between the D7212
> and
> | the D1255. Is there something I need to do to get this to work so I can
> use
> | it?
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> | Bob
> |
> |
> |
>
>
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Posted by Crash Gordon on October 22, 2005, 7:21 pm
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| Crash,
|
| Thanks for the reply.
| I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron so I think the board hardware is
OK.
| Really depends on Radionics' software design as to if any "magic" needs to
| be retained in the RAM to make things work. If so, I'm sure it was blown
| away years ago.
|
| So I understand I must have a 5200 programmer to initialize the board?
Yes.
| I see 5200 programmers on sale on ebay all the time. What "product
handlers"
| would I need to fully program the board?
The product handler for the 7212 panel...I cant remember if the 1255 needs
one too, I can't remember if you needed t he 5200 to program in the alpha in
the 1255s or not. I still have a few of them somewhere.
| Are there no other tools to program these boards?
RAM IV (remote programming program & modem & special dongle) or 5200
| Is the command set to the board documented anywhere?
Low level stuff? I doubt it.
Programming manual you may find somewhere, maybe Jim Rojas has one. I think
I dumped the ones I had, I'll take a look later. They're not available from
Radionics, looks like when Bosch re-did the website they dumped a lot of the
old stuff.
| Is it normal that an uninitialized board would not talk to a D1255
| controller? If I get it talking to the controller, can I program
everything
| from it?
Yes, normal. The panel needs to know about the keypads being there.
|
| While I'm firing off questions, I also purchased a few OCTPOPITS D8128A.
The
| documentation is contradictory regarding which versions of these A,B,C, or
D
| are compatible with this panel. What were the differences between these
| revisions?
Honestly, I don't remember...I had always found the Popits, Octopopits
confusing and still have nightmares about them so I try to not
remember...sorry.
|
| Sorry for all the questions. I'm eager to get this thing working.
Good luck on the adventure. It'll be interesting to see if you do.
|
| Thanks again for any help.
|
| Bob
|
|
| > Forget it even if you had a programmer for it, it ain't easy to program.
| > 9743 means that the warranty ran out the 43rd week of 1997, so the
board's
| > an oldie.
| > If you know exactly how you want it configured you may be able to send
it
| to
| > someone who has a 5200 programmer who happens to have old product
handlers
| > still loaded in the programmer to program it for you.
| > IF the panel still works after you changed the lithium battery.
| >
| >
| > |I recently purchased a Radionics D7212B1 panel from my local surplus
| store
| > | in the hopes of building a simple, non-monitored alarm for my house.
The
| > | board is dated 9743 and numbered 7212. The EPROM on the board is
labeled
| > (C)
| > | Radionics 1995, D7212B1 U4, 26-06962-0316. The Lithium back up battery
| was
| > | shot (<0.5Vdc) so I replaced it with a fresh one. The board seems to
| power
| > | up and run. It beeps, the LEDs blink, it seems to respond to a battery
| > being
| > | attached, it answers incoming calls, data and power appears to be on
the
| > | Peripheral device connection pins. However, when I connect a D1255
panel
| > to
| > | it, the panel displays "Call For Service" about a minute after power
on.
| > The
| > | manual says this means no communication is established between the
D7212
| > and
| > | the D1255. Is there something I need to do to get this to work so I
can
| > use
| > | it?
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| > | Bob
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|
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Posted by Mark Leuck on October 22, 2005, 9:24 pm
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> Crash,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron so I think the board hardware is
OK.
> Really depends on Radionics' software design as to if any "magic" needs to
> be retained in the RAM to make things work. If so, I'm sure it was blown
> away years ago.
>
> So I understand I must have a 5200 programmer to initialize the board?
> I see 5200 programmers on sale on ebay all the time. What "product
handlers"
> would I need to fully program the board?
> Are there no other tools to program these boards?
> Is the command set to the board documented anywhere?
> Is it normal that an uninitialized board would not talk to a D1255
> controller? If I get it talking to the controller, can I program
everything
> from it?
>
> While I'm firing off questions, I also purchased a few OCTPOPITS D8128A.
The
> documentation is contradictory regarding which versions of these A,B,C, or
D
> are compatible with this panel. What were the differences between these
> revisions?
>
> Sorry for all the questions. I'm eager to get this thing working.
>
> Thanks again for any help.
>
> Bob
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