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RCR- Pet Motion Detector Problems

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RCR- Pet Motion Detector Problems Andrew & Adair Wood 10-21-2006
Posted by Andrew & Adair Wood on October 21, 2006, 4:25 pm
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I hope someone here will be kind enough to assist with my problem. I am
not a professional installer, but a FAIRLY knowledgeable end-user. In
the living room of my home, I have a G.E. "RCR-Pet" motion detector.
This is the second unit of this type my installer and I have tried. The
first such sensor was installed over a year ago when another technology
(floor-joist load-cells) proved unsuitable. The load-cells themselves
were a replacement for another brand of motion detector which proved
unsuitable.

The sensor is mounted SLIGHTLY above the maximum recommended height -
the top of the sensor is at 8ft. 1in. above the floor. It is mounted on
an "over-hang" prohibiting lowering it, if the 1-inch overage was
actually significant. There is a 10lb cat as well as 2 dogs in the
room. The dogs are large (Rhodesian Ridgeback and a Saint
Bernard/Collie cross) BUT they are crated when the system is armed. The
Saint Collie's crate is BEHIND the sensor, under the over-hang, outside
of the coverage pattern. The ridgeback's crate is outside of the
sensor's set range and was, until recently, outside of the coverage
pattern. She is also smaller than the 80lb immunity claimed for the unit.

When the first sensor was first installed, it was mounted flush to the
wall of the over-hang. It was set to detect only within 9 feet. I
noticed a problem: it did not "catch" well for people passing through
the most likely path of an intruder in the room. We installed a
"swivel-bracket" and angled the unit approx. 45 degrees toward the
ridgeback's crate, which is approximately 12 feet from the unit. During
walk-testing, catch was improved noticeably.

A few days ago, the sensor falsed. Afterward, I noticed it was
detecting BEYOND the set 9 foot range. Suspecting the unit was
defective, my installer and I replaced it. The new unit is also
detecting beyond the 9 foot range, as well as detecting BEHIND the unit
(despite the fact that G.E. advertises no "back-lobe"). The unit is
still on the "swivel-bracket", but is now oriented straight ahead as the
first one was. I have an "RCR-A" in the master-bedroom (no animals in
there when system is armed) and it's range-detection is flawless.

Have we gotten 2 lemons, or is this model junk? Thanks in advance for
any help.

Andrew Wood

Posted by Frank Olson on October 21, 2006, 5:29 pm
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Andrew & Adair Wood wrote:
> I hope someone here will be kind enough to assist with my problem. I am
> not a professional installer, but a FAIRLY knowledgeable end-user. In
> the living room of my home, I have a G.E. "RCR-Pet" motion detector.
> This is the second unit of this type my installer and I have tried. The
> first such sensor was installed over a year ago when another technology
> (floor-joist load-cells) proved unsuitable. The load-cells themselves
> were a replacement for another brand of motion detector which proved
> unsuitable.
>
> The sensor is mounted SLIGHTLY above the maximum recommended height -
> the top of the sensor is at 8ft. 1in. above the floor. It is mounted on
> an "over-hang" prohibiting lowering it, if the 1-inch overage was
> actually significant. There is a 10lb cat as well as 2 dogs in the
> room. The dogs are large (Rhodesian Ridgeback and a Saint
> Bernard/Collie cross) BUT they are crated when the system is armed. The
> Saint Collie's crate is BEHIND the sensor, under the over-hang, outside
> of the coverage pattern. The ridgeback's crate is outside of the
> sensor's set range and was, until recently, outside of the coverage
> pattern. She is also smaller than the 80lb immunity claimed for the unit.
>
> When the first sensor was first installed, it was mounted flush to the
> wall of the over-hang. It was set to detect only within 9 feet. I
> noticed a problem: it did not "catch" well for people passing through
> the most likely path of an intruder in the room. We installed a
> "swivel-bracket" and angled the unit approx. 45 degrees toward the
> ridgeback's crate, which is approximately 12 feet from the unit. During
> walk-testing, catch was improved noticeably.
>
> A few days ago, the sensor falsed. Afterward, I noticed it was
> detecting BEYOND the set 9 foot range. Suspecting the unit was
> defective, my installer and I replaced it. The new unit is also
> detecting beyond the 9 foot range, as well as detecting BEHIND the unit
> (despite the fact that G.E. advertises no "back-lobe"). The unit is
> still on the "swivel-bracket", but is now oriented straight ahead as the
> first one was. I have an "RCR-A" in the master-bedroom (no animals in
> there when system is armed) and it's range-detection is flawless.
>
> Have we gotten 2 lemons, or is this model junk? Thanks in advance for
> any help.
>
> Andrew Wood


For your application, I'd suggest the Paradox DG75.
(http://www.paradox.ca/Products/CAT_MOTIONDETECTORS/Default.asp?SUBCATID=50100)
I usually stay away from the microwave stuff in a home environment.

Posted by Robert L Bass on October 21, 2006, 9:02 pm
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> ...I'd suggest the Paradox DG75.

The DG75 is actually a very good unit. Be advised that the dealer cost on that
model is about $21. They retail for $27.75.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Posted by Frank Olson on October 22, 2006, 12:35 pm
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Robert L Bass wrote:
>>...I'd suggest the Paradox DG75.
>
>
> The DG75 is actually a very good unit.
>


"Go away. You offer nothing of value to this newsgroup."

Posted by Russell Brill on October 21, 2006, 9:40 pm
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>I hope someone here will be kind enough to assist with my problem. I am
>not a professional installer, but a FAIRLY knowledgeable end-user. In the
>living room of my home, I have a G.E. "RCR-Pet" motion detector. This is
>the second unit of this type my installer and I have tried. The first such
>sensor was installed over a year ago when another technology (floor-joist
>load-cells) proved unsuitable. The load-cells themselves were a
>replacement for another brand of motion detector which proved unsuitable.
>
> The sensor is mounted SLIGHTLY above the maximum recommended height - the
> top of the sensor is at 8ft. 1in. above the floor. It is mounted on an
> "over-hang" prohibiting lowering it, if the 1-inch overage was actually
> significant. There is a 10lb cat as well as 2 dogs in the room. The dogs
> are large (Rhodesian Ridgeback and a Saint Bernard/Collie cross) BUT they
> are crated when the system is armed. The Saint Collie's crate is BEHIND
> the sensor, under the over-hang, outside of the coverage pattern. The
> ridgeback's crate is outside of the sensor's set range and was, until
> recently, outside of the coverage pattern. She is also smaller than the
> 80lb immunity claimed for the unit.
>
> When the first sensor was first installed, it was mounted flush to the
> wall of the over-hang. It was set to detect only within 9 feet. I
> noticed a problem: it did not "catch" well for people passing through the
> most likely path of an intruder in the room. We installed a
> "swivel-bracket" and angled the unit approx. 45 degrees toward the
> ridgeback's crate, which is approximately 12 feet from the unit. During
> walk-testing, catch was improved noticeably.
>
> A few days ago, the sensor falsed. Afterward, I noticed it was detecting
> BEYOND the set 9 foot range. Suspecting the unit was defective, my
> installer and I replaced it. The new unit is also detecting beyond the 9
> foot range, as well as detecting BEHIND the unit (despite the fact that
> G.E. advertises no "back-lobe"). The unit is still on the
> "swivel-bracket", but is now oriented straight ahead as the first one was.
> I have an "RCR-A" in the master-bedroom (no animals in there when system
> is armed) and it's range-detection is flawless.
>
> Have we gotten 2 lemons, or is this model junk? Thanks in advance for any
> help.
>
> Andrew Wood
You can try the Honeywell IS2535
http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/products/sensor/mo/pi/50248.html , I
haven't had any problems with them... Be WARNED, when it comes to cats
getting up on bookshelves, China cabinets, and other tall furniture, THERE
ISN'T A MOTION on the market that won't false... I no longer use any GE
sensor of any kind, the GE Bean Counters have totally Bastardized most of
the product lines/companies that were purchased by GE... They run their
security manufacturing business like their appliance business, which means
they're selling gift wrapped Terds to everyone... :-))



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