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Numerexsolutions;GE-NX8E; GSM Digital Cellular chasbo 11-29-2007
Posted by on November 29, 2007, 11:43 pm
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Problem: Signals (SIA format) from NX8E, via new GE-591E-GSM Digital
Cellular Modules (as well as older analog units), to two different
QuickAlert II's, each in separate locations, are not being
displayed/recorded properly.

For the past two weeks I have been testing the old analog 591E modules
and have discovered that when the cellular signals are received by
NumerexSolutions, the event codes and associated data are displayed
correctly on the GE/Numerex website, but when the same data is
re-transmitted by Numerex to my CO via long distance (using my 888
number), the data is not accepted by the Ozzie, causing Numerex to
retransmit several times, all failures.

When I change the 888 number to my local number in area code 781, the
data from Numerex is correctly displayed/printed.

After much testing of the analog 591E, even bringing my "Test"
QuickAlert II (which I use to bench test all panels/configurations
before installing) to the CO and temporarilly connecting to the 888
numbers, I have come to the conclusion that the SIA data burst sent to
the CO receiver(when dialing the 888 number) is either too fast, or
corrupted by Numerex's re-transmitting equipment, or bad long distance
phone lines, or the long distance phone companies specs don't allow
for these very fast bursts of data (which SIA uses).

Bear in mind that when the signals are sent over land lines (not
cellular) the signals are correctly received! The problem only exists
via cellular, and GE has contracted with NumerexSolutions to handle
the cellular signals from users of the NX591E units.

Though I have spent many hours with GE tech support people and the
Numerex support techs, they have failed to resolve the problem.

I told all the tech people as well as my local GE rep that I would
write a detailed report of my problem, the avenues I took to resolve
it, and my conclusions as to where the problem DOES NOT lie, as well
as where I think the problem really is and who is ultimately
responsible for resolving it.

I have not yet written the report. I decided to try one more
experiment: Since the analog units are being phased out in early
2008, I decided that now is the time to order a few of the new Digital
GSM units from GE and bench test them before swapping them with the
older analog units. Maybe the new units will act correctly when
talking with the Ozzies.

Guess again! Similar problems via cellular; transmissions via land
lines still perfectly fine.

Regardless of which of two Ozzies I send signals to via
NumerexSolutions, and regardless of which phone number is dialed
(local or 888) the data is either not accepted by the receivers or
"uncatologued" is preinted.

Here is what I would like to do: I need one of you who owns one of
the new OH2000E's to permit me to send in a few signals to see if the
signals are received correctly or if they come through corrupted.

With this information I may have a better understanding of the
problem. It could very well be the older QuickAlerts, but I find it
difficult to believe the receivers are at fault, simply because I get
hundreds of valid SIA signals via land line every day.

Best way to reach me is via email: chasbo@shore.net

Many thanks.

Posted by on November 30, 2007, 12:09 am
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Additional info:

In my experiments I am using two Ozzies, several different phone
numbers, two digital cellular units, two analog units, two NX8E
panels, two different account numbers. No matter what configuration
mix I use, the results are similarand in most cases identical. Even
signals sent to NumerexSolutioins receiver were corrupted!

I only have eight analog units in the field, and I suspect that none
of them may be working correctly. Don't know if my problem is recent
or has always existed. I may have been fooled into believing that if
the signal reached the GE/Numerex website, I was good to go. However,
when bench testing the analog units I always had the website on the
screen in front of me, and my test Ozzie sits to the left of the
screen. I find it quite difficult to believe that when I first bench
tested the analog units prior to installing them that I would not have
realized that the signals were not reaching the Ozzie. I'm too much
of a detail person for that to escape my attention. So in retrospect
I believe that the analog units were working as they should, and the
Ozzies were getting the signals correctly. So what has changed?

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:40 -0500, chasbo@shore.net wrote:

>Problem: Signals (SIA format) from NX8E, via new GE-591E-GSM Digital
>Cellular Modules (as well as older analog units), to two different
>QuickAlert II's, each in separate locations, are not being
>displayed/recorded properly.
>
>For the past two weeks I have been testing the old analog 591E modules
>and have discovered that when the cellular signals are received by
>NumerexSolutions, the event codes and associated data are displayed
>correctly on the GE/Numerex website, but when the same data is
>re-transmitted by Numerex to my CO via long distance (using my 888
>number), the data is not accepted by the Ozzie, causing Numerex to
>retransmit several times, all failures.
>
>When I change the 888 number to my local number in area code 781, the
>data from Numerex is correctly displayed/printed.
>
>After much testing of the analog 591E, even bringing my "Test"
>QuickAlert II (which I use to bench test all panels/configurations
>before installing) to the CO and temporarilly connecting to the 888
>numbers, I have come to the conclusion that the SIA data burst sent to
>the CO receiver(when dialing the 888 number) is either too fast, or
>corrupted by Numerex's re-transmitting equipment, or bad long distance
>phone lines, or the long distance phone companies specs don't allow
>for these very fast bursts of data (which SIA uses).
>
>Bear in mind that when the signals are sent over land lines (not
>cellular) the signals are correctly received! The problem only exists
>via cellular, and GE has contracted with NumerexSolutions to handle
>the cellular signals from users of the NX591E units.
>
>Though I have spent many hours with GE tech support people and the
>Numerex support techs, they have failed to resolve the problem.
>
>I told all the tech people as well as my local GE rep that I would
>write a detailed report of my problem, the avenues I took to resolve
>it, and my conclusions as to where the problem DOES NOT lie, as well
>as where I think the problem really is and who is ultimately
>responsible for resolving it.
>
>I have not yet written the report. I decided to try one more
>experiment: Since the analog units are being phased out in early
>2008, I decided that now is the time to order a few of the new Digital
>GSM units from GE and bench test them before swapping them with the
>older analog units. Maybe the new units will act correctly when
>talking with the Ozzies.
>
>Guess again! Similar problems via cellular; transmissions via land
>lines still perfectly fine.
>
>Regardless of which of two Ozzies I send signals to via
>NumerexSolutions, and regardless of which phone number is dialed
>(local or 888) the data is either not accepted by the receivers or
>"uncatologued" is preinted.
>
>Here is what I would like to do: I need one of you who owns one of
>the new OH2000E's to permit me to send in a few signals to see if the
>signals are received correctly or if they come through corrupted.
>
>With this information I may have a better understanding of the
>problem. It could very well be the older QuickAlerts, but I find it
>difficult to believe the receivers are at fault, simply because I get
>hundreds of valid SIA signals via land line every day.
>
>Best way to reach me is via email: chasbo@shore.net
>
>Many thanks.

Posted by brent on November 30, 2007, 7:32 am
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works good with surguard

> Additional info:
>
> In my experiments I am using two Ozzies, several different phone
> numbers, two digital cellular units, two analog units, two NX8E
> panels, two different account numbers. No matter what configuration
> mix I use, the results are similarand in most cases identical. Even
> signals sent to NumerexSolutioins receiver were corrupted!
>
> I only have eight analog units in the field, and I suspect that none
> of them may be working correctly. Don't know if my problem is recent
> or has always existed. I may have been fooled into believing that if
> the signal reached the GE/Numerex website, I was good to go. However,
> when bench testing the analog units I always had the website on the
> screen in front of me, and my test Ozzie sits to the left of the
> screen. I find it quite difficult to believe that when I first bench
> tested the analog units prior to installing them that I would not have
> realized that the signals were not reaching the Ozzie. I'm too much
> of a detail person for that to escape my attention. So in retrospect
> I believe that the analog units were working as they should, and the
> Ozzies were getting the signals correctly. So what has changed?
>
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:40 -0500, chasbo@shore.net wrote:
>
>>Problem: Signals (SIA format) from NX8E, via new GE-591E-GSM Digital
>>Cellular Modules (as well as older analog units), to two different
>>QuickAlert II's, each in separate locations, are not being
>>displayed/recorded properly.
>>
>>For the past two weeks I have been testing the old analog 591E modules
>>and have discovered that when the cellular signals are received by
>>NumerexSolutions, the event codes and associated data are displayed
>>correctly on the GE/Numerex website, but when the same data is
>>re-transmitted by Numerex to my CO via long distance (using my 888
>>number), the data is not accepted by the Ozzie, causing Numerex to
>>retransmit several times, all failures.
>>
>>When I change the 888 number to my local number in area code 781, the
>>data from Numerex is correctly displayed/printed.
>>
>>After much testing of the analog 591E, even bringing my "Test"
>>QuickAlert II (which I use to bench test all panels/configurations
>>before installing) to the CO and temporarilly connecting to the 888
>>numbers, I have come to the conclusion that the SIA data burst sent to
>>the CO receiver(when dialing the 888 number) is either too fast, or
>>corrupted by Numerex's re-transmitting equipment, or bad long distance
>>phone lines, or the long distance phone companies specs don't allow
>>for these very fast bursts of data (which SIA uses).
>>
>>Bear in mind that when the signals are sent over land lines (not
>>cellular) the signals are correctly received! The problem only exists
>>via cellular, and GE has contracted with NumerexSolutions to handle
>>the cellular signals from users of the NX591E units.
>>
>>Though I have spent many hours with GE tech support people and the
>>Numerex support techs, they have failed to resolve the problem.
>>
>>I told all the tech people as well as my local GE rep that I would
>>write a detailed report of my problem, the avenues I took to resolve
>>it, and my conclusions as to where the problem DOES NOT lie, as well
>>as where I think the problem really is and who is ultimately
>>responsible for resolving it.
>>
>>I have not yet written the report. I decided to try one more
>>experiment: Since the analog units are being phased out in early
>>2008, I decided that now is the time to order a few of the new Digital
>>GSM units from GE and bench test them before swapping them with the
>>older analog units. Maybe the new units will act correctly when
>>talking with the Ozzies.
>>
>>Guess again! Similar problems via cellular; transmissions via land
>>lines still perfectly fine.
>>
>>Regardless of which of two Ozzies I send signals to via
>>NumerexSolutions, and regardless of which phone number is dialed
>>(local or 888) the data is either not accepted by the receivers or
>>"uncatologued" is preinted.
>>
>>Here is what I would like to do: I need one of you who owns one of
>>the new OH2000E's to permit me to send in a few signals to see if the
>>signals are received correctly or if they come through corrupted.
>>
>>With this information I may have a better understanding of the
>>problem. It could very well be the older QuickAlerts, but I find it
>>difficult to believe the receivers are at fault, simply because I get
>>hundreds of valid SIA signals via land line every day.
>>
>>Best way to reach me is via email: chasbo@shore.net
>>
>>Many thanks.



Posted by Bob La Londe on November 30, 2007, 3:09 pm
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> works good with surguard

IMO the most likely culprit is the toll free provider. Since Uplink does
not charge for the toll I would consider just using the local number from
them.





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Posted by brent on December 1, 2007, 9:09 am
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try the 592E alarm dot com module
it might work

>
>> works good with surguard
>
> IMO the most likely culprit is the toll free provider. Since Uplink does
> not charge for the toll I would consider just using the local number from
> them.
>
>
>
>
>
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>



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