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Posted by on June 26, 2006, 4:10 am
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The club is an aircraft club, we are on an uncontrolled but busy
airfield about 1/2 an hours drive out of the city. The door lock is a
combination, everybody in the club is given it. We have no set "open
hours", members come and go as they wish, first one in opens up, last
one out closes, that's the way it's supposed to work at least. We only
have about 120 members, so if I can find out people who have left it
open and make sure they don't do it again, then we can at least try and
reduce the problem.
So alarm monitoring isn't really the answer here, I don't think it
would be manageable with the unset hours of operation, and people
coming and going all the time.
Same goes for card access ( a. cost, b. it's not going to record who
left the door open, only who initially opened it).
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Posted by Rebel on June 26, 2006, 4:13 am
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bitsyboffin@gmail.com wrote:
> So alarm monitoring isn't really the answer here, I don't think it
> would be manageable with the unset hours of operation, and people
> coming and going all the time.
>
> Same goes for card access ( a. cost, b. it's not going to record who
> left the door open, only who initially opened it).
How about selflocking doors swipecard in swipecard out.
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Posted by alarman on June 26, 2006, 11:12 am
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locked. You eschew your existing combo lock, and install a mag. lock or
electric strike. The careless members can't forget to lock it. The card
access system permits only those with cards to enter the premises, and
records who entered and when.
If you think it's too expensive, you can't afford video anyway.
js
> The club is an aircraft club, we are on an uncontrolled but busy
> airfield about 1/2 an hours drive out of the city. The door lock is a
> combination, everybody in the club is given it. We have no set "open
> hours", members come and go as they wish, first one in opens up, last
> one out closes, that's the way it's supposed to work at least. We only
> have about 120 members, so if I can find out people who have left it
> open and make sure they don't do it again, then we can at least try and
> reduce the problem.
>
> So alarm monitoring isn't really the answer here, I don't think it
> would be manageable with the unset hours of operation, and people
> coming and going all the time.
>
> Same goes for card access ( a. cost, b. it's not going to record who
> left the door open, only who initially opened it).
>
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Posted by Bob La Londe on June 26, 2006, 11:31 am
If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options > Card access is perfect for your application. The door is electrically
> locked. You eschew your existing combo lock, and install a mag. lock or
> electric strike. The careless members can't forget to lock it. The card
> access system permits only those with cards to enter the premises, and
> records who entered and when.
>
> If you think it's too expensive, you can't afford video anyway.
> js
LOL, its amazing how many people are offended by that concept. "It should
be less thna $50." LOL.
I've found its not wise to argue these things. I once argued that CD
writing technology would never be affordable to the average computer user.
I could claim that I am still correct as commercial grade CD writing is NOT
affordable or even easy to find for the average computer user, but the new
lower power softer surface CDR systems are certainly affordable if not
downright cheap. To the average computer user they are indistinguishable.
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Bob La Londe
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http://www.YumaBassMan.com
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Posted by Prometheus on June 26, 2006, 2:54 pm
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>The club is an aircraft club, we are on an uncontrolled but busy
>airfield about 1/2 an hours drive out of the city. The door lock is a
>combination, everybody in the club is given it. We have no set "open
>hours", members come and go as they wish, first one in opens up, last
>one out closes, that's the way it's supposed to work at least. We only
>have about 120 members, so if I can find out people who have left it
>open and make sure they don't do it again, then we can at least try and
>reduce the problem.
>
>So alarm monitoring isn't really the answer here, I don't think it
>would be manageable with the unset hours of operation, and people
>coming and going all the time.
>
>Same goes for card access ( a. cost, b. it's not going to record who
>left the door open, only who initially opened it).
You do not need "card access", you already have a combination that
should only be known to members*, what you now need is a self closing
door which can be easily opened from inside but can only be reopened
from outside with the combination. We have a secure room at work with
just such a system, it works, and it was not expensive. You do not need
to know who opened it, and you do not need to know who failed to lock it
since it locks its self. Your proposed surveillance camera system would
cost more than my proposal. In fact I begin to question why your are so
insistent on a surveillance system, what or who do you really want to
record?
* If it is known to non-members then it does not mater if the last one
out did lock-up.
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Ian G8ILZ
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