City of Pittsburgh going 3rd party inspect on fire

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City of Pittsburgh going 3rd party inspect on fire Nick Markowitz 05-02-2006
Posted by Nick Markowitz on May 2, 2006, 8:10 pm
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Found out today that city of pittsburgh with all its budget cuts eliminated
its fire prevention inspectors most who were ready to retire and turned fire
inspection over to building inspection bureau who has no one at present
certified under ICC to due inspections for fire alarms,hoods sprinklers etc.
and we now have to use 3rd party service.
and there are very few 3rd party service available.
what a mess.
I can not bielive they did this knowing how much revenue they brought in
with inspections let alone give up the control on how systems are installed.
hopefully it will all be ironed out in a couple of months but till then who
knows.
--
Nick Markowitz Jr.
Owner
Markowitz Electric Protection
Private Industry Fire Investigator.
Qualified Electrical- Fire Alarm Contractor

Contributing Editor Pa. Firemans Magazine
Staff Editor www.securitymission.com
Senior Correspondant www.1strespondernews.com
Contributor www.monyoughfire.com
www.nbfd.us
Contract Broadcast Engineer WAVL 910 AM apollo Pa.

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Posted by ABLE_1 on May 2, 2006, 9:01 pm
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Gee Nick, sounds like there is a good job opportunity available there.

My suggestion is Go for it.


> Found out today that city of pittsburgh with all its budget cuts
> eliminated
> its fire prevention inspectors most who were ready to retire and turned
> fire
> inspection over to building inspection bureau who has no one at present
> certified under ICC to due inspections for fire alarms,hoods sprinklers
> etc.
> and we now have to use 3rd party service.
> and there are very few 3rd party service available.
> what a mess.
> I can not bielive they did this knowing how much revenue they brought in
> with inspections let alone give up the control on how systems are
> installed.
> hopefully it will all be ironed out in a couple of months but till then
> who
> knows.
> --
> Nick Markowitz Jr.
> Owner
> Markowitz Electric Protection
> Private Industry Fire Investigator.
> Qualified Electrical- Fire Alarm Contractor
>
> Contributing Editor Pa. Firemans Magazine
> Staff Editor www.securitymission.com
> Senior Correspondant www.1strespondernews.com
> Contributor www.monyoughfire.com
> www.nbfd.us
> Contract Broadcast Engineer WAVL 910 AM apollo Pa.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
> "To error is human to realy foul things up requires a computer"
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------
> Irish Diplomacy
>
> The ability to tell a man to go to hell and he tells you how much he is
> looking forward to taking the trip.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> If a job is so simple a Monkey can do it The Monkey usally does a better
> job
>
>



Posted by Nomen Nescio on May 2, 2006, 9:30 pm
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Nick Markowitz said:

>Found out today that city of pittsburgh with all its budget cuts eliminated
>its fire prevention inspectors most who were ready to retire and turned fire
>inspection over to building inspection bureau who has no one at present
>certified under ICC to due inspections for fire alarms,hoods sprinklers etc.
>and we now have to use 3rd party service.
>and there are very few 3rd party service available.

I'm a little confused. The only fire inspector certification program I
know of is NFPA's. But I assume the building inspection bureau is
qualified, technically, just because they're a government agency and can do
what they want. What kind of certification are you talking about?

I'm also curious about who certifies those third parties to inspect fire
alarms and other stuff. I don't think there's a UL listing classification
for independent fire inspector service, is there?

- badenov


Posted by Nick Markowitz on May 2, 2006, 9:44 pm
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Pa. now follows the ICC International code and ICC now certifies all code
enforcement inspectors including fire.
If you are a fire marshal conducting a fire investigation you have to now be
certified thru ICC to file charges or the case can be thrown out if your not
certified.
Too many code agencies and towns and installing companys are finding out
the hard way about our new Uniform construction code which follows ICC


I have been concidering taking the ICC clases and doing 3rd party for small
municipalitys but would never do it for a city too much politics.



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