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Posted by Jim Rojas on July 14, 2007, 10:55 am
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I have contact many attorneys. Each one either requires a huge retainer,
or flat out refuse to represent me if it involves Brinks Home Security.
I am not going to let these bottom feeders disrupt my life. I already
transferred my millions to the Caman Islands.
Jim Rojas
Robert L Bass wrote:
>> ... what exactly IS the "smart thing"?
>
> There's no point in reiterating it. I and several others have already
> told him. Unlike most here, I studied law in college. Rojas is a nice
> guy and I hate to see him get hurt. He has decided to go bare-knuckles
> with these guys and they're going to ruin him financially. Because he
> lives in Florida Brinks will not get his house. They can and will take
> every other dime he has though. That's sad because he's right and
> they're wrong but, as others have said, the legal system has little to
> do with right and wrong.
>
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Posted by newb on July 14, 2007, 10:58 am
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Jim Rojas wrote:
> I have contact many attorneys. Each one either requires a huge retainer,
how huge?
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Posted by Jim Rojas on July 14, 2007, 11:29 am
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Jim Rojas
newb wrote:
> Jim Rojas wrote:
>> I have contact many attorneys. Each one either requires a huge retainer,
>
>
> how huge?
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Posted by Roland More on July 14, 2007, 11:37 pm
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yellow brick road to the Courthouse, especially the Federal Courthouse.
Unfortunately for me I have gone down that road too many times. I have had
11 lawyers working on cases for me all at one time. You finally realize how
far you gone when lawyers take you into their office and question you about
legal procedures WITHOUT sending you a bill. In other words you have become
a resource for them. I mentioned (guessed) at a $25K retainer in other posts
as a starting point for legal fees. Now you have confirmed that as a valid
number. I know this $25K sounds like a lot of money (and it is) but this is
really chump change for any scrap involving the Federal Court System,
especially against an adversary that has its own internal legal force (more
or less). These guys can make a lot of work (and money for themselves) for
the other side by filing motion after motion. Billing by the hour generates
cash for Brinks' attorneys but will erode your $25K retainer well before
discovery is over, let alone trial. Depending on Brinks' appetite for
escalating this it could be a lot more than $25K before appeals begin. It is
like that old car repair commercial. "You can pay me now or you can pay me
later". You can try an end run and file for Federal Bankruptcy protection
PRIOR to any judgments being entered against you. By going into Bankruptcy
you will receive protection from the court from any litigation efforts of
Brinks against you. In fact if you hire a real bastard bankruptcy attorney
he can actually get Brinks' attorneys tossed into jail themselves when they
continue to hassle you (which they will try to do because that is how they
bill Brinks for their services). If you file Chapter 11 or 13 you could so
foul up Brinks plans for you that they'll want to reach some other
"accommodation" with you and the Bankruptcy Court. Once you have that
"accommodation" in hand you can postpone and eventually dismiss your own
Bankruptcy almost as if it never happened. One needs to be VERY careful in
this strategy since you could go to jail yourself for using the inadvertent
consequences of filing Bankruptcy as a legal defense strategy. However a
pissed off attorney with plenty of years of experience in Bankruptcy (and
plenty of free liquor) can be a gold mine as to how to pursue these guys via
the legal back door for cheap. Brinks knows full well the legal techniques
for derailing their plans for you. Making the right legal moves will signal
to Brinks that you know too, and the party will be over for Brinks. Brinks
attorneys' aren't out to win so much as they're out to bill. When you take
the cash away from an attorney you take everything away. There are two
things that are simply poison for an attorney. One is no cash (that is like
the garlic for a vampire) and the other is they HATE to lose (that is the
stake through the heart for the vampire). Bankruptcy means they can't get
money (because they can't bill for attacking you anymore), and they can't
win (because they can't attack you anymore). It is like removing AC and
battery from an alarm system. They'll move on to figure their next payday
strategy for fleecing their own client (Brinks) with some other trumped up
legal BS. Attorneys are easy to defeat once you figure out the technique for
cutting off funds, or their access to funds, and making victory impossible
to obtain or (worse) even define. They will never stick to any case based on
"principles" (they simply have none), or for being "in it" for the client.
Looking for an attorney that sides with you and takes the case based on its
merits is like looking for a virgin in a whorehouse. Its fruitless of
course, and only an entertaining search only if you like attorneys or
whores, both in the business of screwing people for (and out of) money, and
each using the exact same moral code. You might hear some type of BS "good
guy" rhetoric from time to time from an attorney, but that would really be a
smokescreen for hiding the fact that they have been had (financially) and
the court WON'T let them off the case they accepted. A real attorney would
never dispute what I have said here (mostly because there is no money to be
made by doing so) but also because it is so easy to list names, dates,
times, places, faces, and cases to support what I have said. Think of what
you have to do to win with the resources you have at hand. You'll never win
if you fight on Brinks terms, and on Brinks turf, using only your own
efforts.
> 25K+ range
>
> Jim Rojas
>
>
>
>
> newb wrote:
>> Jim Rojas wrote:
>>> I have contact many attorneys. Each one either requires a huge retainer,
>>
>>
>> how huge?
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Posted by Crash Gordon on July 15, 2007, 12:04 am
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| Jim, You seem to have led a charmed life that has never taken you down the
| yellow brick road to the Courthouse, especially the Federal Courthouse.
| Unfortunately for me I have gone down that road too many times. I have had
| 11 lawyers working on cases for me all at one time. You finally realize
how
| far you gone when lawyers take you into their office and question you
about
| legal procedures WITHOUT sending you a bill. In other words you have
become
| a resource for them. I mentioned (guessed) at a $25K retainer in other
posts
| as a starting point for legal fees. Now you have confirmed that as a valid
| number. I know this $25K sounds like a lot of money (and it is) but this
is
| really chump change for any scrap involving the Federal Court System,
| especially against an adversary that has its own internal legal force
(more
| or less). These guys can make a lot of work (and money for themselves) for
| the other side by filing motion after motion. Billing by the hour
generates
| cash for Brinks' attorneys but will erode your $25K retainer well before
| discovery is over, let alone trial. Depending on Brinks' appetite for
| escalating this it could be a lot more than $25K before appeals begin. It
is
| like that old car repair commercial. "You can pay me now or you can pay me
| later". You can try an end run and file for Federal Bankruptcy protection
| PRIOR to any judgments being entered against you. By going into Bankruptcy
| you will receive protection from the court from any litigation efforts of
| Brinks against you. In fact if you hire a real bastard bankruptcy attorney
| he can actually get Brinks' attorneys tossed into jail themselves when
they
| continue to hassle you (which they will try to do because that is how they
| bill Brinks for their services). If you file Chapter 11 or 13 you could so
| foul up Brinks plans for you that they'll want to reach some other
| "accommodation" with you and the Bankruptcy Court. Once you have that
| "accommodation" in hand you can postpone and eventually dismiss your own
| Bankruptcy almost as if it never happened. One needs to be VERY careful in
| this strategy since you could go to jail yourself for using the
inadvertent
| consequences of filing Bankruptcy as a legal defense strategy. However a
| pissed off attorney with plenty of years of experience in Bankruptcy (and
| plenty of free liquor) can be a gold mine as to how to pursue these guys
via
| the legal back door for cheap. Brinks knows full well the legal techniques
| for derailing their plans for you. Making the right legal moves will
signal
| to Brinks that you know too, and the party will be over for Brinks. Brinks
| attorneys' aren't out to win so much as they're out to bill. When you take
| the cash away from an attorney you take everything away. There are two
| things that are simply poison for an attorney. One is no cash (that is
like
| the garlic for a vampire) and the other is they HATE to lose (that is the
| stake through the heart for the vampire). Bankruptcy means they can't get
| money (because they can't bill for attacking you anymore), and they can't
| win (because they can't attack you anymore). It is like removing AC and
| battery from an alarm system. They'll move on to figure their next payday
| strategy for fleecing their own client (Brinks) with some other trumped up
| legal BS. Attorneys are easy to defeat once you figure out the technique
for
| cutting off funds, or their access to funds, and making victory impossible
| to obtain or (worse) even define. They will never stick to any case based
on
| "principles" (they simply have none), or for being "in it" for the client.
| Looking for an attorney that sides with you and takes the case based on
its
| merits is like looking for a virgin in a whorehouse. Its fruitless of
| course, and only an entertaining search only if you like attorneys or
| whores, both in the business of screwing people for (and out of) money,
and
| each using the exact same moral code. You might hear some type of BS "good
| guy" rhetoric from time to time from an attorney, but that would really be
a
| smokescreen for hiding the fact that they have been had (financially) and
| the court WON'T let them off the case they accepted. A real attorney would
| never dispute what I have said here (mostly because there is no money to
be
| made by doing so) but also because it is so easy to list names, dates,
| times, places, faces, and cases to support what I have said. Think of what
| you have to do to win with the resources you have at hand. You'll never
win
| if you fight on Brinks terms, and on Brinks turf, using only your own
| efforts.
|
|
| > 25K+ range
| >
| > Jim Rojas
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > newb wrote:
| >> Jim Rojas wrote:
| >>> I have contact many attorneys. Each one either requires a huge
retainer,
| >>
| >>
| >> how huge?
|
|
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