Brinks Home Security Pays Off The Better Business Bureau

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Brinks Home Security Pays Off The Better Business Bureau Anonymous Sender 03-22-2008
Posted by Jim Rojas on March 26, 2008, 11:42 pm
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A company as large as Brinks resorting to taking on authorized dealers
must be in a huge financial worry. Think about all the problems
associated with these type of individuals.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with it. It's just that Brinks
is too set in their ways to make this a viable option.

I have heard the horror stories from a few authorized dealers out there.
Everything from no funding to holdbacks and chargebacks due to customers
inability to pay many months down the line. Let's face it. The customer
passes credit, pays the install fee, etc. Why should the dealer then be
held responsible for the customer paying for whatever time limit Brinks
sets? It is ridiculous. Then by contract the dealer is forbidden to
salvage the deal or even take the customer back and keep it an in house
account. After the chargeback, Brinks is then free to sign the customer
back up at a lower rate...Watch your ass authorized dealers. Tactics
like this will bankrupt you in no time.

I do think that alarm contract law needs to be changed. Customers that
don't realize that they don't own Brinks equipment is totally
unacceptable. Plain english law and larger fonts must be used. Portions
in the contract like equipment ownership issues should be initialed by
all parties to make the contract valid.

I have heard that in some countries that it is illegal for companies
like Brinks to hide this fact concerning equipment ownership in
microprint, or it is illegal for lease only systems for residential
customers, since the overall equipment has little, to no value at the
end of the contract. It is one thing to lease only a system as long as
no service calls are charged. But to charge a high monthly rate, then
charge a high service call rate is nothing short of extortion. Does
anyone have any information or opinions regarding this?

Jim Rojas







Jim Rojas



Russell Brill wrote:
>> Brinks has over a hundred authorized dealers all over the USA.
>>
>> I think it was a big mistake to allow authorized dealers access to their
>> customer base. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
>
> I have one thing to say about that, "GOOD".............. :-))
>> Jim Rojas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert L Bass wrote:
>>> "Bob La Londe" wrote:
>>>> So wouldn't falsely labeling other people's boxes weaken their claim on
>>>> their own boxes and certainly would weaken a claim like, "See it even
>>>> has our sticker on it."
>>> Nope. The fact that they are a sleazy, dishonest company taking
>>> advantage of their customers does not give other sleazy, dishonest
>>> companies the right to use the garbage that they own.
>>>
>
>

Posted by Frank Olson on March 27, 2008, 1:38 am
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Jim Rojas wrote:
> A company as large as Brinks resorting to taking on authorized dealers
> must be in a huge financial worry. Think about all the problems
> associated with these type of individuals.
>
> I am not saying there is anything wrong with it. It's just that Brinks
> is too set in their ways to make this a viable option.
>
> I have heard the horror stories from a few authorized dealers out there.
> Everything from no funding to holdbacks and chargebacks due to customers
> inability to pay many months down the line. Let's face it. The customer
> passes credit, pays the install fee, etc. Why should the dealer then be
> held responsible for the customer paying for whatever time limit Brinks
> sets?

They shouldn't, but you have to agree that it's a "two way" street. The
dealer is "piggy-backing" on a company with a recognized "name" in the
industry. The problem is that unless the dealer has a good deal of
clout (multiple offices in less populous centers), a company like Brinks
can "set the tune they dance to" with little or no regard.


> It is ridiculous. Then by contract the dealer is forbidden to
> salvage the deal or even take the customer back and keep it an in house
> account. After the chargeback, Brinks is then free to sign the customer
> back up at a lower rate...Watch your ass authorized dealers. Tactics
> like this will bankrupt you in no time.

Since they "own the paper", there's not much the dealer can do. They're
calling the shots. I'm not taking sides on this issue because I can see
both views. There are ways to make things better, but both partners to
the contract must be able to sit down and work to the "common good".


>
> I do think that alarm contract law needs to be changed.

I don't think there's anything specifically WRONG with most alarm
service agreements. I just think terms like cancellation clauses,
ownership and specific liabilities should be highlighted.


> Customers that
> don't realize that they don't own Brinks equipment is totally
> unacceptable.

They should be given the opportunity to read the fine print (that's not
always possible with some "pushy" salesman). Some states/provinces
employ a "cooling off" period of a few days which allows the consumer to
investigate the deal a little further and cancel without obligation. I
think the cancellation procedure should be simplified and made less
onerous on the customer.


> Plain english law and larger fonts must be used. Portions
> in the contract like equipment ownership issues should be initialed by
> all parties to make the contract valid.

The customer should initial a section detailing this. The service
charge rate should also be detailed (including after hours service terms).


>
> ... Does
> anyone have any ... opinions regarding this?


Just two. Brinks Badda Bad. Jim gGGoood.

Posted by Bob La Londe on March 27, 2008, 1:07 pm
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> always possible with some "pushy" salesman). Some states/provinces employ
> a "cooling off" period of a few days which allows the consumer to
> investigate the deal a little further and cancel without obligation. I
> think the cancellation procedure should be simplified and made less
> onerous on the customer.

One alarm company I know of actually had a right of recision page on the
front of their contracts. Bascially the customer signed it and sent it to
the company within three days and the contract was cancelled. In about two
weeks they got their money back. Of course this was also one of those
companies who taught salesmen to rush customers and never give them a chance
to read everything. This was also a company who got kicked out of Arizona
for contracting without a license. LOL.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision
on who we do business with.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047



Posted by Robert L Bass on March 27, 2008, 7:44 pm
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"Bob La Londe" wrote:
>
> One alarm company I know of actually had a right of recision page on the
> front of their contracts.

In CT we included a right of rescission notice with every contract. It's a
legal requirement but some outfits still didn't do it.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Posted by Nomen Nescio on March 27, 2008, 11:20 pm
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>One alarm company I know of actually had a right of recision page on the
>front of their contracts. Bascially the customer signed it and sent it to
>the company within three days and the contract was cancelled. In about two
>weeks they got their money back. Of course this was also one of those
>companies who taught salesmen to rush customers and never give them a chance
>to read everything.

With a few exceptions, federal law requires sellers to give a customer
three business days to cancel most sales over $25 made in the customer's
home and give the customer a full refund. The seller is required to give
the customer a separate two-part form to use to cancel the deal. This
applies anywhere in the United States, and it is not an option -- it's
federal law.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro03.shtm


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