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Any one hooked a Vista 32FB to a gamewell master box Nick Markowitz 04-26-2006
Posted by Nick Markowitz on April 26, 2006, 8:53 am
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One of last town in my area still uses the old gamewell master stret box. i
need to hook a Vista 32 FB to it.
any one have sucess doing it.
concidering using a silent knight 5220? direct connect module to get the job
done AHJ said he will accept it.
if i can get it to work correctly.
any ideas?

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Nick Markowitz Jr.
Owner
Markowitz Electric Protection
Private Industry Fire Investigator.
Qualified Electrical- Fire Alarm Contractor

Contributing Editor Pa. Firemans Magazine
Staff Editor www.securitymission.com
Senior Correspondant www.1strespondernews.com
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Posted by FIRETEK on April 26, 2006, 10:37 am
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If it's the box I think you've got, it has a wind up mechanism that
transmits pulses to a receiver at the fire station (and is worth it's weight
in gold to a collector). You're going to have to figure out a way of
replacing all this with a set of normally open contacts which you can
supervise through your equipment. It's do-able, but my first question is:
Why? My second question is: Who's going to "accept" any modifications you
propose doing (and can you get that acceptance in writing to cover your
ass)?

Regards,
Frank
(No, not that "Frank". The other one).

> One of last town in my area still uses the old gamewell master stret box.
i
> need to hook a Vista 32 FB to it.
> any one have sucess doing it.
> concidering using a silent knight 5220? direct connect module to get the
job
> done AHJ said he will accept it.
> if i can get it to work correctly.
> any ideas?
>
> --
> Nick Markowitz Jr.
> Owner
> Markowitz Electric Protection
> Private Industry Fire Investigator.
> Qualified Electrical- Fire Alarm Contractor
>
> Contributing Editor Pa. Firemans Magazine
> Staff Editor www.securitymission.com
> Senior Correspondant www.1strespondernews.com
> Contributor www.monyoughfire.com
> www.nbfd.us
> Contract Broadcast Engineer WAVL 910 AM apollo Pa.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----------------------
> "To error is human to realy foul things up requires a computer"
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----------------------
> Irish Diplomacy
>
> The ability to tell a man to go to hell and he tells you how much he is
> looking forward to taking the trip.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----------
> If a job is so simple a Monkey can do it The Monkey usally does a better
job
>
>



Posted by Nick Markowitz on April 26, 2006, 9:29 pm
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Its the kind of box your thinking it winds up by hand and transmits a code.
greensburg pa is doing away with there system over next couple years any
one intrested in a box
i will try to get details on.

the ahj said he would aprove a modification in writting
whats best way to do it.



Posted by Nomen Nescio on April 26, 2006, 11:40 pm
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Nick Markowitz said:

>One of last town in my area still uses the old gamewell master stret box. i
>need to hook a Vista 32 FB to it.

What you need is called a shunt master box. It's a regular Gamewell fire
alarm box that is designed to be operated by a normally closed relay
contact in a fire alarm panel. I don't know whether it's possible to get
the parts necessary to convert a regular box into a master box. You may be
able to find a master box on eBay and swap code wheels with the existing
box.

http://www.gamewell.com/datasheets/CS-2261.pdf

Before you try setting up the electrical connection, make sure the box
transmits signals when activated manually. Then it's just a matter of
making your relay trip the box. The Vista panel has a relay that can be
programmed to operate on alarm. Just hook it to the master box, and you're
done.

- badenov


Posted by Frank Olson on April 26, 2006, 11:54 pm
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Nick Markowitz said:
>
>
>>One of last town in my area still uses the old gamewell master stret box. i
>>need to hook a Vista 32 FB to it.
>
>
> What you need is called a shunt master box. It's a regular Gamewell fire
> alarm box that is designed to be operated by a normally closed relay
> contact in a fire alarm panel. I don't know whether it's possible to get
> the parts necessary to convert a regular box into a master box. You may be
> able to find a master box on eBay and swap code wheels with the existing
> box.
>
> http://www.gamewell.com/datasheets/CS-2261.pdf
>
> Before you try setting up the electrical connection, make sure the box
> transmits signals when activated manually. Then it's just a matter of
> making your relay trip the box. The Vista panel has a relay that can be
> programmed to operate on alarm. Just hook it to the master box, and you're
> done.
>
> - badenov
>


It would be a serious crime to alter or tamper with what is truly a
collector's item. This sucker will fetch big bucks on eBay in its
untouched, original state. I'd suggest replacing it with a newer
Gamewell box (one that has the relays you require to hook up to your
communicator), and either mounting the original in your rec-room or
selling it on eBay. You'd be way ahead either way, Nick! Good luck!!

Frank Olson
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

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