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Account worth A.J. 05-11-2008
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Posted by Crash Gordon on May 13, 2008, 10:12 am
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IMO that would drop the price way down as it's really not much of a
commitment on the client's part.
Also...make sure you do your due diligence!...go out there and visit the
accounts, that they exist, quality of install, age of equipment...etc.
I've seen all too many people buy accounts that have NO alarm system
installed and don't find out till the supposed client never pays!
Seriously!



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**Crash Gordon**







> I thank you all for all the inputs and comments.
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> Yes, I meant month2month contract instead of no contract, good catch there
> Crash.
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> We are going to be making an offer to buy, so the least multiple we can
> pick up the accounts for, the better it is for our own pocket.
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Posted by tourman on May 13, 2008, 1:23 pm
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wrote:
> IMO that would drop the price way down as it's really not much of a
> commitment on the client's part.

> Also...make sure you do your due diligence!...go out there and visit the
> accounts, that they exist, quality of install, age of equipment...etc.
> I've seen all too many people buy accounts that have NO alarm system
> installed and don't find out till the supposed client never pays!
> Seriously!
>

RHC: Wow, never seen buying a non existant account, but I wouldn't put
it past someone doing !!

We have a dealer up here that a few years ago sold his medium sized
company, and then immediately started a new company and began chasing
all his old customers to get them back (even though he had signed a
non compete agreement with the buyer). I never heard what happened but
I hope the buyer got some sort of court order to stop this blatant
theft....

Posted by Nomen Nescio on May 13, 2008, 9:30 pm
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>RHC: Wow, never seen buying a non existant account, but I wouldn't put
>it past someone doing !!

It isn't usually that the seller is trying to cheat the buyer. It's
usually just a matter of sloppy bookkeeping: accounts cancel or stop
paying, but they stay on the books. The company keeps sending out bills,
doesn't do any follow-up or collections, and then when it's time to sell,
there's a bunch of dead wood on their account list. Obviously, the buyer
would like to find out about this before he writes a check.


Posted by tourman on May 13, 2008, 12:11 pm
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> >technically, without a contract...you have nothing to sell.
>
> Not necessarily. If the seller has his customers signed up to
> month-to-month contracts, the accounts may still have value, though
> probably less than a longer-term contract would be worth.
>
> If the seller has no contracts at all, or contracts that don't contain the
> proper language to limit liability, the buyer may require the seller to
> sign his accounts up on the buyer's contract form as a condition of sale.
> Not the best arrangement for the seller, obviously.
>
> Finally, nobody has mentioned the guarantee period. The seller will be
> expected to guarantee that the accounts he sells will continue making
> payments to the buyer for some period of time after the sale. Part of this
> is to keep sellers from getting paid for deadbeat , cancelled, or
> nonexistent accounts, part of it is to protect the buyer from paying for
> accounts that cancel or go out of business a short time after the sale.
> The buyer holds back a percentage of the purchase price until the end of
> the guarantee period. Even on month-to-month contracts, this amount gives
> the buyer some protection.

RHC: Very good point !! Most deals involving purchase of alarm
accounts (regardless of length of contractual agreement) usually
involve some kind of staggered payment plan with a clawback clause for
just this reason. Bad clients can bail out regardless of contract
length, and there is no reason why the buyer should end up financing
this "higher than normal attrition rate" loss. The shorter the
contractual period, obviously the more important it is.

One other risk to both buyer and seller is the tendency for the buyer
to want to raise prices up to his levels from the levels that the
sellers accounts are at. This is a recipe for disaster.The buyer paid
a price based on the original monthly rate and should honour this rate
at least for the first while. One large buyer bumped the rates and
lost 80% of the accounts he bought (and these accounts were under long
term contract). So the seller has to find out in advance how the buyer
is going to handle this transition period of a year or two since this
will affect what he ends up getting paid. From the sellers
perspective, he should know exactly what the buyer plans to do and
what his old clients can expect at least for the next couple of years
afterward.

Posted by Nomen Nescio on May 13, 2008, 9:10 pm
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>One other risk to both buyer and seller is the tendency for the buyer
>to want to raise prices up to his levels from the levels that the
>sellers accounts are at. This is a recipe for disaster.The buyer paid
>a price based on the original monthly rate and should honour this rate
>at least for the first while. One large buyer bumped the rates and
>lost 80% of the accounts he bought (and these accounts were under long
>term contract). So the seller has to find out in advance how the buyer
>is going to handle this transition period of a year or two since this
>will affect what he ends up getting paid

The proper way to handle this is to write into the purchase contract that
if a customer cancels during the guarantee period due to a rate increase by
the buyer, the seller still gets paid the full price for the account. This
is only fair, since the seller has no control over whether the buyer
decides to raise the rates, and shouldn't be punished for his inability to
foretell the future. Alternatively, the contract might contain the
seller's promise to keep the rates unchanged until the guarantee period
expires.

This should cover not only the monthly monitoring, but also the labor
rates. It doesn't help if the monitoring stays the same and the labor
rates triple.


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