is that a good offer for a server installation?

is that a good offer for a server installation?

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is that a good offer for a server installation? Giuseppe 06-30-2005
Posted by Giuseppe on June 30, 2005, 1:41 pm
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A person I know needs to receive large files (about 500 Mb) from his
customers to be downloaded and then worked.
Each customer should have his own protected area.
He has contacted a computer company (moreover distant more than 100 km from
his office) that has proposed this solution:
1. buying a server to mantain in his office
2. SO linux based upon kernel 2.6xx
3. web server&php. apache
4. firewall
5. installation of cwfm (a software that manages files, at first I believed
that should be created by them, but then I found out to be free on the net
http://cwfm.sourceforge.net) upload and download are managed via http

The economic offer was:
- installation SO linux: configuration linux, apache, php, dns, iptables and
cwfm --->3000 euro (about 3600 dollars)
- mantainance ---> first year free, from the second on 1000 euro (about 1200
dollars)
purchasing of the server is apart

I'm very doubfull about this, but the person who should buy everything is
even enthustiastic about the onesty and knoledge of these people.

They insisted above all on the issue of security, as if hackers ordinary
waste their time to manage to keep wedding albums sent via the internt, and
they told him that ftp is not secure for this and their program is based
upon http. "It could be seriously risky for his customer privacy" !!!

questions:
1) do you relly think that http is more secure than ftp?
2) do you think http is the right solution for uploading so large files?
3) what do you think about the economic offer? Consider that I' writing from
Italy and here everything is cheaper compared to, for example USA or
northern europe. So you have to consider higher the sum he has to pay.

Has somebody some link to correlated topics? As it seems that I have no
authority with this person, wich insted should have a site with articles
written by knoledged people. I've made a search on the internt but I was non
able to find anything usefull.


bye and thank you to those who will express an opinion



Giuseppe






Posted by Michael J. Pelletier on June 30, 2005, 8:23 am
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Giuseppe wrote:

> A person I know needs to receive large files (about 500 Mb) from his
> customers to be downloaded and then worked.
> Each customer should have his own protected area.
> He has contacted a computer company (moreover distant more than 100 km
> from his office) that has proposed this solution:
> 1. buying a server to mantain in his office
> 2. SO linux based upon kernel 2.6xx
> 3. web server&php. apache
> 4. firewall
> 5. installation of cwfm (a software that manages files, at first I
> believed that should be created by them, but then I found out to be free
> on the net http://cwfm.sourceforge.net) upload and download are managed
> via http
>
> The economic offer was:
> - installation SO linux: configuration linux, apache, php, dns, iptables
> and
> cwfm --->3000 euro (about 3600 dollars)
> - mantainance ---> first year free, from the second on 1000 euro (about
> 1200 dollars)
> purchasing of the server is apart
>
> I'm very doubfull about this, but the person who should buy everything is
> even enthustiastic about the onesty and knoledge of these people.
>
> They insisted above all on the issue of security, as if hackers ordinary
> waste their time to manage to keep wedding albums sent via the internt,
> and they told him that ftp is not secure for this and their program is
> based upon http. "It could be seriously risky for his customer privacy"
> !!!
>
> questions:
> 1) do you relly think that http is more secure than ftp?

HTTPS, yes. Remember ftp sends in clear text!

> 2) do you think http is the right solution for uploading so large files?

I do it. I use a program called Horde that has a file system interface
(written in php). and it works quite well.

> 3) what do you think about the economic offer? Consider that I' writing
> from Italy and here everything is cheaper compared to, for example USA or
> northern europe. So you have to consider higher the sum he has to pay.

I do think it is a little expensive...

> Has somebody some link to correlated topics? As it seems that I have no
> authority with this person, wich insted should have a site with articles
> written by knoledged people. I've made a search on the internt but I was
> non able to find anything usefull.

I do not have any problems with the applications. Just the price seems a
little high. You get a year of maintenance? What does it include?

Michael

>
> bye and thank you to those who will express an opinion
>
>
>
> Giuseppe



Posted by Giuseppe on June 30, 2005, 4:02 pm
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"Michael J. Pelletier" ha scritto nel messaggio
> > questions:
> > 1) do you relly think that http is more secure than ftp?
>
> HTTPS, yes. Remember ftp sends in clear text!

does the software they are going to install work under https?

> > 2) do you think http is the right solution for uploading so large files?
>
> I do it. I use a program called Horde that has a file system interface
> (written in php). and it works quite well.

I thought that ftp was a better solution for uploading so large files


> I do not have any problems with the applications. Just the price seems a
> little high. You get a year of maintenance? What does it include?
>
> Michael

thank you for your opinion




Posted by Michael J. Pelletier on June 30, 2005, 10:11 am
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Giuseppe wrote:

> "Michael J. Pelletier" ha scritto nel messaggio
>> > questions:
>> > 1) do you relly think that http is more secure than ftp?
>>
>> HTTPS, yes. Remember ftp sends in clear text!
>
> does the software they are going to install work under https?

Well technically you can always "wrap" the web application in a directory
that forces the web server to use https. So, yes, it should work.

>> > 2) do you think http is the right solution for uploading so large
>> > files?
>>
>> I do it. I use a program called Horde that has a file system interface
>> (written in php). and it works quite well.
>
> I thought that ftp was a better solution for uploading so large files

Actually the solution I like the best for this is sftp (really ssh). There
are many windows applications that will allow you use this to speak to a
linux/BSD box running it. Linux/BSD can do it "out of the box".

>> I do not have any problems with the applications. Just the price seems a
>> little high. You get a year of maintenance? What does it include?
>>
>> Michael
>
> thank you for your opinion



Posted by Giuseppe on June 30, 2005, 4:20 pm
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here is a link:

http://cwfm.sourceforge.net/index.php




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