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international encryption Fred 12-03-2005
Posted by Fred on December 3, 2005, 10:28 pm
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Hi...wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the following scenario. A
US-based company has a UK-based facility. Is the UK-based facility
limited in the type of encryption solutions it can implement because of
US export controls? I've readd that the US treats encryption products as
military-type exports and this severely limits how these can be
exported. Would this apply in this situation, or does it only apply in
cases of US vendors selling encryption products overseas? In my
scenarion, the UK-based facility is part of the US-based company, so
it's not really selling encryption products, just implementing them at a
foreign facility owned by a US company. The company wants to implement a
tight security solution for its entire network, including the foreign
facility.

Thanks...

Posted by Jim Watt on December 4, 2005, 4:01 am
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>Hi...wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the following scenario. A
>US-based company has a UK-based facility. Is the UK-based facility
>limited in the type of encryption solutions it can implement because of
>US export controls? I've readd that the US treats encryption products as
>military-type exports and this severely limits how these can be
>exported. Would this apply in this situation, or does it only apply in
>cases of US vendors selling encryption products overseas? In my
>scenarion, the UK-based facility is part of the US-based company, so
>it's not really selling encryption products, just implementing them at a
>foreign facility owned by a US company. The company wants to implement a
>tight security solution for its entire network, including the foreign
>facility.
>
>Thanks...

1, America has no monopoly on encryption.
2. Their domestic laws have no extraterritorial validity.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Posted by Juergen Nieveler on December 4, 2005, 11:58 am
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> 2. Their domestic laws have no extraterritorial validity.

Except if you happen to fly somewhere and have to change planes at a US
airport. The USA don't understand the concept of "transit", and think
that as soon as you set your foot into a US airport, even without
wanting to travel to the USA, you're all theirs...

Juergen Nieveler
--
There's someone out there for everyone - even if you need a pickaxe, a
compass, and night goggles to find them. Steve Martin as Harris Telemacher
in "L.A. Story".

Posted by Jim Watt on December 4, 2005, 12:36 pm
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On 4 Dec 2005 16:58:36 GMT, Juergen Nieveler

>
>> 2. Their domestic laws have no extraterritorial validity.
>
>Except if you happen to fly somewhere and have to change planes at a US
>airport. The USA don't understand the concept of "transit", and think
>that as soon as you set your foot into a US airport, even without
>wanting to travel to the USA, you're all theirs...

And if you have a beard, its even worse, off to Guantanamo
without trial. Bloody fascists. However this describes personal
security rather than that of computers.

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Posted by Ned Brickley on December 5, 2005, 7:26 am
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wrote:

>>Except if you happen to fly somewhere and have to change planes at a US
>>airport. The USA don't understand the concept of "transit", and think
>>that as soon as you set your foot into a US airport, even without
>>wanting to travel to the USA, you're all theirs...

>And if you have a beard, its even worse, off to Guantanamo
>without trial. Bloody fascists. However this describes personal
>security rather than that of computers.

On that I beg to differ. My Brother in-law is hispanic, and if you put
him in traditional middle eastern garb, he looks like he just walked
out of the desert with Lawrence of Arabia. He has not once been
checked at an airport and until recently he traveled a great deal.

Now if you are a young attracive female....

--
Ned

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