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Security Questions. Noob 06-27-2005
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Posted by Noob on June 27, 2005, 8:28 pm
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Hi.

I'm a newbie so don't laugh at these questions.

Why is the NSA developing Linux with (Mandatory Access Control) /MAC while
FreeBSD has had this for sometime?

SELinux
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/

Why don't they use one of the BSD's ?


Question 2

Read about Yahoo and FreeBSD.
http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~cfonda/sudan/OSs/references/freeBSD/Yahoo_and_FreeBSD.html

Why don't they track the stable branch?

We started with a single Pentium 100 box running FreeBSD 2.0.5. We
eventually migrated the rest of our production servers to FreeBSD and today
we have over 50 servers running various versions of 2.1 STABLE. We are in
the process of testing 2.2 STABLE and hope to convert during the next 6
months.








Posted by Michael J. Pelletier on June 27, 2005, 6:37 pm
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Noob wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I'm a newbie so don't laugh at these questions.
>
> Why is the NSA developing Linux with (Mandatory Access Control) /MAC while
> FreeBSD has had this for sometime?

I am not sure if FreeBSD has had this for a long time. I believe it came out
with 4.8 or 4.9...

> SELinux
> http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
>
> Why don't they use one of the BSD's ?

A lot of the code is shared so it probably is improvements that they are
working on...

>
> Question 2
>
> Read about Yahoo and FreeBSD.
>
http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~cfonda/sudan/OSs/references/freeBSD/Yahoo_and_FreeBSD.html
>
> Why don't they track the stable branch?
>
> We started with a single Pentium 100 box running FreeBSD 2.0.5. We
> eventually migrated the rest of our production servers to FreeBSD and
> today we have over 50 servers running various versions of 2.1 STABLE. We
> are in the process of testing 2.2 STABLE and hope to convert during the
> next 6 months.

Why are you using such an old version? The current stable version is 5.4...


Michael


Posted by birdpup on June 28, 2005, 1:47 am
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Michael J. Pelletier wrote:
> Noob wrote:
>
http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~cfonda/sudan/OSs/references/freeBSD/Yahoo_and_FreeBSD.html
>
>>Why don't they track the stable branch?
>>
>>We started with a single Pentium 100 box running FreeBSD 2.0.5. We
>>eventually migrated the rest of our production servers to FreeBSD and
>>today we have over 50 servers running various versions of 2.1 STABLE. We
>>are in the process of testing 2.2 STABLE and hope to convert during the
>>next 6 months.
>
>
> Why are you using such an old version? The current stable version is 5.4...

lol Who's on first base?

The OP forgot to quote that paragraph from the referenced news article.
Those are not the OP's words, but I also thought they were after
reading the question.

In partial answer, I believe this article is at least a few years old.


Posted by Michael J. Pelletier on June 28, 2005, 12:12 am
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birdpup wrote:

> Michael J. Pelletier wrote:
>> Noob wrote:
>>
http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~cfonda/sudan/OSs/references/freeBSD/Yahoo_and_FreeBSD.html
>>
>>>Why don't they track the stable branch?
>>>
>>>We started with a single Pentium 100 box running FreeBSD 2.0.5. We
>>>eventually migrated the rest of our production servers to FreeBSD and
>>>today we have over 50 servers running various versions of 2.1 STABLE. We
>>>are in the process of testing 2.2 STABLE and hope to convert during the
>>>next 6 months.
>>
>>
>> Why are you using such an old version? The current stable version is
>> 5.4...
>
> lol Who's on first base?
>
> The OP forgot to quote that paragraph from the referenced news article.
> Those are not the OP's words, but I also thought they were after
> reading the question.
>
> In partial answer, I believe this article is at least a few years old.

Ah...that makes sense :-)


Posted by Unruh on June 28, 2005, 6:54 am
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>Hi.

>I'm a newbie so don't laugh at these questions.

>Why is the NSA developing Linux with (Mandatory Access Control) /MAC while
>FreeBSD has had this for sometime?

>SELinux
>http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/

>Why don't they use one of the BSD's ?

Because far more people use Linux than BSD.



>Question 2

>Read about Yahoo and FreeBSD.
>http://www.ictp.trieste.it/~cfonda/sudan/OSs/references/freeBSD/Yahoo_and_FreeBSD.html

>Why don't they track the stable branch?

??? Ask them.


>We started with a single Pentium 100 box running FreeBSD 2.0.5. We
>eventually migrated the rest of our production servers to FreeBSD and today
>we have over 50 servers running various versions of 2.1 STABLE. We are in
>the process of testing 2.2 STABLE and hope to convert during the next 6
>months.

Excellent. So your question were rhetorical I assume.









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