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Posted by #2 Aluxe on October 19, 2006, 12:45 am
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:25:01 +0100, Mark McIntyre wrote:
> You can't search usenet for IPs.
Hi Mark McIntyre,
Huh? Of course you can. You're pretty exasperating to converse with.
For example, in the next thirty seconds, I can go back fifteen years on
google to find the exact IP address I used on a particular post to
alt.personals (since my NNTP posting host is actually my router's IP
address).
If I can do that in half a minute, a script kiddie can do thousands of
those kind of searches in that same minute.
Can't you?
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Posted by Dana on October 19, 2006, 1:03 am
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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:25:01 +0100, Mark McIntyre wrote:
> > You can't search usenet for IPs.
>
> Hi Mark McIntyre,
>
> Huh? Of course you can. You're pretty exasperating to converse with.
>
> For example, in the next thirty seconds, I can go back fifteen years on
> google to find the exact IP address I used on a particular post to
> alt.personals (since my NNTP posting host is actually my router's IP
> address).
Did you have the same router 15 years ago?
>
> If I can do that in half a minute, a script kiddie can do thousands of
> those kind of searches in that same minute.
>
> Can't you?
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Posted by #2 Aluxe on October 19, 2006, 1:34 am
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>> For example, in the next thirty seconds, I can go back fifteen years on
>> google to find the exact IP address I used on a particular post to
>> alt.personals
> Did you have the same router 15 years ago?
Hi Dana,
Now you're finally agreeing with me!
It's precisely because I had a DIFFERENT IP ADDRESS 15 years ago that we
can't easily collect all my posts from then to now.
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Posted by Dana on October 19, 2006, 1:49 am
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:03:26 -0800, Dana wrote:
> >> For example, in the next thirty seconds, I can go back fifteen years on
> >> google to find the exact IP address I used on a particular post to
> >> alt.personals
>
> > Did you have the same router 15 years ago?
>
> Hi Dana,
>
> Now you're finally agreeing with me!
Well no, not really.
I still say changing your IP or MAC on your PC is doing nothing to increase
your privacy from those who really want to dig into your life.
>
> It's precisely because I had a DIFFERENT IP ADDRESS 15 years ago that we
> can't easily collect all my posts from then to now.
If someone wanted to, they could. and that is the point people are trying to
make, more than likely you would not be a target of such people. Unless of
course you are a politician like Foley found out.
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Posted by #2 Aluxe on October 19, 2006, 2:13 am
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> I still say changing your IP or MAC on your PC is doing nothing to increase
> your privacy from those who really want to dig into your life.
Hi Dana,
I think we already agreed otherwise in a few cases (did we not?).
For example, I think we have established (or at least nobody has reliably
refuted) that taking the five seconds to change your wireless card's MAC
address before connecting at a public hot spot is additive to privacy. (Did
we not?)
Also, you tacitly underscored my point that changing the IP address of my
router definately makes it harder for someone to easily connect my posts to
alt.personals vs my separate posts to comp.security.firewalls vs my posts
to Bell Laboratories. As such, the time it takes to change the IP address
is also additive to privacy. (Did we not?)
It's important that we agree or agree to disagree on these two points:
POINT 1: Changing MAC address is additive to privacy in public hotspots.
POINT 2: Changing IP address is additive to privacy in those cases where
the user's NNTP posting host is their IP address.
This whole thread basically leaves us with three technical questions:
1. Does the MAC really have a bit which indicates it has been changed?
(I think it does ... but I await confirmation from the group)
2. How can I eliminate the NNTP Posting Host line in my nntp headers?
(I think it can be eliminated as Dana and Mark seemed to have done so)
3. How can I force the router to dial into the PPPoE on software demand?
(I am following instructions previously posted to see if that works)
This should be a simple technical discussion ... not an emotional paranoia
discussion.
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