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Posted by Aluxe on October 17, 2006, 4:16 pm
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:04:09 -0800, Dana wrote:
>> Same with periodically changing my MAC address, my SSID, my encryption
>> keys, my login, my password, and my IP address.
>
> While some of the above are good security practices, like password changing
> and even SSID. People who change MAC addresses are not doing so for security
> reasons, but are changing their MAC addresses to avoid being found (while
> yes you can call that security), the point is that it has been found that
> mass mailers, spammers, phishers and such are the ones who are hiding by
> changing their MAC addresses. But like everything else, they cannot hide
> forever and eventually they do get caught.
LOL. Hi Dana,
I'm not a bad guy ... If I were, I wouldn't be posting this using my own
ISP would I?
Here's the test:
a) Can you casually track my last ten posts?
Of course you can. Just look for my login on google.
b) OK. Then, can you easily track my last twenty posts?
Of course you can. Just look for my IP address.
c) The real question is can you track my last fifty posts?
I'm hoping changing my IP address makes this step just a wee bit harder.
Otherwise, why close your window shutters when you're going to bed?
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Posted by John Navas on October 17, 2006, 4:21 pm
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>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:04:09 -0800, Dana wrote:
>
>>> Same with periodically changing my MAC address, my SSID, my encryption
>>> keys, my login, my password, and my IP address.
>>
>> While some of the above are good security practices, like password changing
>> and even SSID. People who change MAC addresses are not doing so for security
>> reasons, but are changing their MAC addresses to avoid being found (while
>> yes you can call that security), the point is that it has been found that
>> mass mailers, spammers, phishers and such are the ones who are hiding by
>> changing their MAC addresses. But like everything else, they cannot hide
>> forever and eventually they do get caught.
>
>LOL. Hi Dana,
>I'm not a bad guy ... If I were, I wouldn't be posting this using my own
>ISP would I?
>
>Here's the test:
>a) Can you casually track my last ten posts?
>Of course you can. Just look for my login on google.
>
>b) OK. Then, can you easily track my last twenty posts?
>Of course you can. Just look for my IP address.
>
>c) The real question is can you track my last fifty posts?
>I'm hoping changing my IP address makes this step just a wee bit harder.
It doesn't.
>Otherwise, why close your window shutters when you're going to bed?
To make the room dark.
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Posted by Dana on October 17, 2006, 4:38 pm
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> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:04:09 -0800, Dana wrote:
>
> >> Same with periodically changing my MAC address, my SSID, my encryption
> >> keys, my login, my password, and my IP address.
> >
> > While some of the above are good security practices, like password
changing
> > and even SSID. People who change MAC addresses are not doing so for
security
> > reasons, but are changing their MAC addresses to avoid being found
(while
> > yes you can call that security), the point is that it has been found
that
> > mass mailers, spammers, phishers and such are the ones who are hiding by
> > changing their MAC addresses. But like everything else, they cannot hide
> > forever and eventually they do get caught.
>
> LOL. Hi Dana,
> I'm not a bad guy ... If I were, I wouldn't be posting this using my own
> ISP would I?
>
> Here's the test:
> a) Can you casually track my last ten posts?
> Of course you can. Just look for my login on google.
>
> b) OK. Then, can you easily track my last twenty posts?
> Of course you can. Just look for my IP address.
Just using your IP address to track messages would also give me the other
people who were assigned that IP address by your ISP.
Remember the ISP is who is identified by that IP address when you run a
whois.
>
> c) The real question is can you track my last fifty posts?
Yep, just type in your name you use to post, or the email address you are
using.
> I'm hoping changing my IP address makes this step just a wee bit harder.
It will not.
If you want to post anonymously, you have to use a remailer type of service.
They strip your headers, and replace them with theirs.
>
> Otherwise, why close your window shutters when you're going to bed?
I leave mine open. But I do not have any visible neighbors
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Posted by Aluxe on October 18, 2006, 12:33 am
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>> b) OK. Then, can you easily track my last twenty posts?
>> Of course you can. Just look for my IP address.
> Just using your IP address to track messages would also give me the other
> people who were assigned that IP address by your ISP.
Hi Dana,
I think you are making my point for me (I think).
If I had the lease on an IP address for, say, the past three months, then
you could find all my posts (no matter which pseudonym I chose) for that
three-month period, simply by searching for one line in the nntp header.
If I had the same IP address for, say, six months, then I just doubled that
vulnerable tracking period.
Likewise, if I held the lease only for a day, then you'd only be able to
track my posts for one day.
Arent' you agreeing with me then on the need to change the IP address
periodically for those of us whose ISP lists the IP address of our routers?
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Posted by Dana on October 18, 2006, 12:55 am
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> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:38:20 -0800, Dana wrote:
> >> b) OK. Then, can you easily track my last twenty posts?
> >> Of course you can. Just look for my IP address.
> > Just using your IP address to track messages would also give me the
other
> > people who were assigned that IP address by your ISP.
>
> Hi Dana,
> I think you are making my point for me (I think).
>
> If I had the lease on an IP address for, say, the past three months, then
> you could find all my posts (no matter which pseudonym I chose) for that
> three-month period, simply by searching for one line in the nntp header.
So you are an abuser of the system, or else you would not have to change
your pseudonym all the time. People who do that is the newsgroups are either
spammers, or people just trying to disrupt the newsroup, or people who keep
getting blocked by their other ISPs from posting to newsgroups.
> Arent' you agreeing with me then on the need to change the IP address
> periodically for those of us whose ISP lists the IP address of our
routers?
No.
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