Peter Gutmann Rips Windows Vista Content Protection

Peter Gutmann Rips Windows Vista Content Protection

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Peter Gutmann Rips Windows Vista Content Protection nemo_outis 12-28-2006
Posted by nemo_outis on December 28, 2006, 3:00 pm
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Read and weep:

A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
Peter Gutmann
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

Regards,

Posted by Rick Merrill on December 28, 2006, 3:58 pm
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nemo_outis wrote:
> Read and weep:
>
> A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
> Peter Gutmann
> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>

"The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute
the longest suicide note in history."
- http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

Others have pointed out that Vista will be the LAST Windows OS ever!!!
The future is net-based! How about that.

- Rick

Posted by nemo_outis on December 28, 2006, 5:10 pm
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> nemo_outis wrote:
>> Read and weep:
>>
>> A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
>> Peter Gutmann
>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>>
>
> "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute
> the longest suicide note in history."
> - http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>
> Others have pointed out that Vista will be the LAST Windows OS ever!!!
> The future is net-based! How about that.
>
> - Rick
>

There are several problems with that view:

1. Despite Vista being bloatware there is a high likelihood that it will
be adopted by a significant percentage of businesses who will be
delighted by DRM, expiring email, documents that cannot be read offsite,
etc. To the extent that business adopts Vista (and Office 2007) the MS
cycle still has the better part of a decade to go, at least. There will
be significant pressure on smaller businesses and comsumers to follow
suit, however grudgingly, for compatibility reasons.

2. I believe that open-source (the BDSs, linux, etc.) has more of a
future than net-based computing. I suspect I'm not alone in wanting the
locus of control confined to a machine under my complete and direct
control.

3. I sincerely hope that the DRM future (Vista, etc.) which makes PC
owners serfs on their own machines will be massively rejected. That is
my hope but, sadly, not my expectation.

Regards,




Posted by Unruh on December 30, 2006, 12:53 am
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>> nemo_outis wrote:
>>> Read and weep:
>>>
>>> A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection
>>> Peter Gutmann
>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>>>
>>
>> "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute
>> the longest suicide note in history."
>> - http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>>
>> Others have pointed out that Vista will be the LAST Windows OS ever!!!
>> The future is net-based! How about that.
>>
>> - Rick
>>

>There are several problems with that view:

>1. Despite Vista being bloatware there is a high likelihood that it will
>be adopted by a significant percentage of businesses who will be
>delighted by DRM, expiring email, documents that cannot be read offsite,
>etc. To the extent that business adopts Vista (and Office 2007) the MS
>cycle still has the better part of a decade to go, at least. There will
>be significant pressure on smaller businesses and comsumers to follow
>suit, however grudgingly, for compatibility reasons.

That is until they suddenly discover that a program that they rely on stops
working for a few weeks, or hardware containing critical material becomes
unaccessible.


>2. I believe that open-source (the BDSs, linux, etc.) has more of a
>future than net-based computing. I suspect I'm not alone in wanting the
>locus of control confined to a machine under my complete and direct
>control.

>3. I sincerely hope that the DRM future (Vista, etc.) which makes PC
>owners serfs on their own machines will be massively rejected. That is
>my hope but, sadly, not my expectation.

I think that businesses will rapidly come to be converted to your
viewpoint.


>Regards,




Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on December 28, 2006, 5:13 pm
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Rick Merrill wrote:

> "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute
> the longest suicide note in history."
> - http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>
> Others have pointed out that Vista will be the LAST Windows OS ever!!!

Since Server 2003 as the last Windows OS before Vista also being the last
usable Windows OS, it's most likely that Windows Vista will be the last
Windows OS ever.

Or Microsoft turns around and starts over with the NT 5.2 codebase from
Server 03, declaring all the efforts spend afterwards as their biggest
waste ever. Yeah sure...

> The future is net-based! How about that.

That's their wish. And the users know that it's nonsense.

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