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Dell supporting non windows PCs Imhotep 10-04-2005
Posted by Imhotep on October 4, 2005, 10:13 pm
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About time. Personally, I am sick and tired of paying the MS 'tax'...

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

Imhotep


Posted by Hairy One Kenobi on October 5, 2005, 12:27 pm
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> About time. Personally, I am sick and tired of paying the MS 'tax'...
>
>
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

"About time"?

They've been supporting SuSE for more than two years. Before that, it was
just Red Hat - since maybe 1999? It's been available as a tick-box option on
servers for yonks, but only hit "prime time" a few years ago, when Ellison
had a tilt at IBM with 9i on an Dell RH Cluster with EMC storage.

Definitely after 1997, though - back then, you only had the option of a Dell
Windows build (best binned immediately, IMHO) or no OS at all (you tended to
find DOS or Win 3 on there, used for initial hardware testing and then not
properly scrubbed.

There have been a few swings and roundabouts with compulsory license
shipping (MS T&Cs for cheapo OEM licenses) - not sure if you get to save
your $12 or so for XP Home on a desktop. The saving is much more noticeable
when you're comparing the Server line of OSes.

Im - if you're going to post essentially "non core" news on a security
froup, then it's worth checking that it's actually in any way, shape, or
form /new/.. ;o)

--

Hairy One Kenobi

Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!




Posted by Imhotep on October 5, 2005, 6:01 pm
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Hairy One Kenobi wrote:

>> About time. Personally, I am sick and tired of paying the MS 'tax'...
>>
>>
>
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
>
> "About time"?
>
> They've been supporting SuSE for more than two years. Before that, it was
> just Red Hat - since maybe 1999? It's been available as a tick-box option
> on servers for yonks, but only hit "prime time" a few years ago, when
> Ellison had a tilt at IBM with 9i on an Dell RH Cluster with EMC storage.
>
> Definitely after 1997, though - back then, you only had the option of a
> Dell Windows build (best binned immediately, IMHO) or no OS at all (you
> tended to find DOS or Win 3 on there, used for initial hardware testing
> and then not properly scrubbed.
>
> There have been a few swings and roundabouts with compulsory license
> shipping (MS T&Cs for cheapo OEM licenses) - not sure if you get to save
> your $12 or so for XP Home on a desktop. The saving is much more
> noticeable when you're comparing the Server line of OSes.
>
> Im - if you're going to post essentially "non core" news on a security
> froup, then it's worth checking that it's actually in any way, shape, or
> form /new/.. ;o)
>

Are you sure they have been offering that for a while? I tried to buy a pc
from them about 2 years ago, and they insisted on Windows being installed.
Could it be an Europe only deal (at the time).


Im


Posted by Moe Trin on October 6, 2005, 2:50 pm
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In the Usenet newsgroup alt.computer.security, in article

>Hairy One Kenobi wrote:

>> They've been supporting SuSE for more than two years. Before that, it was
>> just Red Hat - since maybe 1999?

>Are you sure they have been offering that for a while?

"Google is your friend"

Results 1 - 10 of 1,020 from Jan 1, 1997 to Oct 6,
Searched all groups 2000 for Dell Linux available group:comp.os.linux.*
(0.30 seconds)

comp.os.linux.advocacy - May 26 1999, 10:39 am by bob - 1 message - 1 author
Subject: news: Dell Broadens Linux Offering

Factory-Installation Of Red Hat Linux 6.0 Expands to Europe, Planned
for Asia-Pacific Region

ROUND ROCK, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 26, 1999--Dell Computer Corporation
(Nasdaq:DELL - news), the world's leading direct computer systems company,
today announced several initiatives to broaden the availability to Dell
customers, of products and information for the Linux operating system for
Dell customers.


Newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell, comp.os.linux.portable, comp.sys.laptops
Dell's New Dimension: Offer Linux To The Masses
By Charles Babcock, Inter@ctive Week
August 9, 1999 3:58 AM PT
URL: http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2310868,00.html

Dell Computer is preparing to add Linux to its popular Dimension
desktop PCs, which will put the world's largest PC hardware vendor in the
position of offering Linux as a checkoff option alongside Microsoft's
Windows 95, 98 and NT.

Now, if you read between the lines, there was a heck of a lot of talk from
Dull - how much actual performance is another question.

>I tried to buy a pc from them about 2 years ago, and they insisted on
>Windows being installed. Could it be an Europe only deal (at the time).

As above. I know their sales weasels were offering it to corporate customers
in 1999-2001. We've never bothered buying from Dell (or Gateway, or...) as
we get better support from our local vendors. But then, I think everyone
has heard _that_ song before.

Old guy


Posted by Imhotep on October 6, 2005, 10:48 pm
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Moe Trin wrote:

> In the Usenet newsgroup alt.computer.security, in article
>
>>Hairy One Kenobi wrote:
>
>>> They've been supporting SuSE for more than two years. Before that, it
>>> was just Red Hat - since maybe 1999?
>
>>Are you sure they have been offering that for a while?
>
> "Google is your friend"
>
> Results 1 - 10 of 1,020 from Jan 1, 1997 to Oct
> 6,
> Searched all groups 2000 for Dell Linux available
> group:comp.os.linux.*
> (0.30
> seconds)
>
> comp.os.linux.advocacy - May 26 1999, 10:39 am by bob - 1 message - 1
> author
> Subject: news: Dell Broadens Linux Offering
>
> Factory-Installation Of Red Hat Linux 6.0 Expands to Europe, Planned
> for Asia-Pacific Region
>
> ROUND ROCK, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 26, 1999--Dell Computer
> Corporation (Nasdaq:DELL - news), the world's leading direct computer
> systems company, today announced several initiatives to broaden the
> availability to Dell customers, of products and information for the
> Linux operating system for Dell customers.
>
>
> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell, comp.os.linux.portable,
> comp.sys.laptops
> Dell's New Dimension: Offer Linux To The Masses
> By Charles Babcock, Inter@ctive Week
> August 9, 1999 3:58 AM PT
> URL: http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2310868,00.html
>
> Dell Computer is preparing to add Linux to its popular Dimension
> desktop PCs, which will put the world's largest PC hardware vendor in
> the position of offering Linux as a checkoff option alongside
> Microsoft's Windows 95, 98 and NT.
>
> Now, if you read between the lines, there was a heck of a lot of talk from
> Dull - how much actual performance is another question.
>
>>I tried to buy a pc from them about 2 years ago, and they insisted on
>>Windows being installed. Could it be an Europe only deal (at the time).
>
> As above. I know their sales weasels were offering it to corporate
> customers in 1999-2001. We've never bothered buying from Dell (or Gateway,
> or...) as we get better support from our local vendors. But then, I think
> everyone has heard _that_ song before.
>
> Old guy


Thanks for the info!

Michael


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