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Posted by Sebastian G. on May 30, 2008, 6:04 am
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Klunk wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:59:29 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
> writing:
>
>> Klunk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> How could it lock up the machine? Unless it accidentially triggers a
>>>> local unprivileged DoS condition, which in turn would mean that you
>>>> should analyze the issue and report it to Microsoft.
>>> Who have said it is sloppy third party coding. Next ?
>>
>> Find out when and where you've broken your machine.
>
> I have, it was on installation of the Winpooch. Running a number of
> Sysinternals tools shows it right up. Process Explorer for one shows it
> maxing out. Next?
OK, and now *where* have you broken it? What changed ACL or configuration
setting made Winpooch trigger your machine lockup? After all, without such
change by you, locking up the machine wouldn't be possible.
(Now please don't tell me you tried installing and running it with admin
privileges...)
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Posted by Klunk on May 30, 2008, 6:57 am
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On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:04:43 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
writing:
> Klunk wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 May 2008 22:59:29 +0200, Sebastian G. passed an empty day by
>> writing:
>>
>>> Klunk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> How could it lock up the machine? Unless it accidentially triggers a
>>>>> local unprivileged DoS condition, which in turn would mean that you
>>>>> should analyze the issue and report it to Microsoft.
>>>> Who have said it is sloppy third party coding. Next ?
>>>
>>> Find out when and where you've broken your machine.
>>
>> I have, it was on installation of the Winpooch. Running a number of
>> Sysinternals tools shows it right up. Process Explorer for one shows it
>> maxing out. Next?
>
>
> OK, and now *where* have you broken it? What changed ACL or
> configuration setting made Winpooch trigger your machine lockup? After
> all, without such change by you, locking up the machine wouldn't be
> possible.
>
> (Now please don't tell me you tried installing and running it with admin
> privileges...)
I think you would need to ask the author where *they* have broken it. It
was installed with non-admin privileges and got as far as a splash
screen, system tray icon and hung in a fashion that made Nuremberg look
like a blip. In locking up it managed to try and stop almost *anything*
running, with a maxing out of CPU.
If you think that AVG8 was shit, it does not hold a torch to Winpooch.
It's in the bin with that - but thanks for your interest. As I run Linux
as my OS of choice (go on, have a look at all the headers to satisfy
yourself) I don't really need to be all that concerned with a piece of
shit wincrap that doesn't work. Perhaps if I need something to stop the
machine working I'll put Vista on it next time for a laugh ;-)
If you want to carry on trying to look smart for the last word go right
ahead. I am sorry that the software you suggested was shit and didn't
work for me. I know you are finding hard to accept and that it must hurt
your feelings. Perhaps I can help you with that?
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Posted by Sebastian G. on May 30, 2008, 7:22 am
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> I think you would need to ask the author where *they* have broken it.
Sure, but...
> It was installed with non-admin privileges and got as far as a splash
> screen, system tray icon and hung in a fashion that made Nuremberg look
> like a blip. In locking up it managed to try and stop almost *anything*
> running, with a maxing out of CPU.
this shouldn't lock up the machine unless you managed to misconfigure it
somewhere.
> If you think that AVG8 was shit, it does not hold a torch to Winpooch.
Well, I just suggested Winpooch because it seems to be user-friendly. I for
one had simply implemented the needed on-demand scan as a simple script
running in the background.
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Posted by Beachcomber on May 29, 2008, 12:55 pm
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For me, the old AVG worked pretty good and I was happy to recommend it
as a primary virus protection program for a PC.
This new Version 8.0 is invasive of system resources and slows my 4
year old PC down considerably, especially during simple browsing on
IE.
It appears to call up other web sites in the background just to check
the validity of links on whatever page I call up. Yes, I know I can
disable this and other features, but even when I shut down AVG on
startup, it seems that there are processes running in the background
that interfer with IE and either slow it down or make it hang.
When they fix it, I'll be happy to start using it again. Virus
protection is a good thing.
I just don't have the time to experiment with every single setting
(and by default), it seems that every single resource-consuming check
is turned on when you install it.
Just my experience with AVG 8.0, so far...
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Posted by Sebastian G. on May 29, 2008, 1:15 pm
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> For me, the old AVG worked pretty good and I was happy to recommend it
> as a primary virus protection program for a PC.
Did I miss something? It's a virus scanner, it can't protect from viruses by
design.
> This new Version 8.0 is invasive of system resources and slows my 4
> year old PC down considerably, especially during simple browsing on
> IE.
WTF? You want security, yet you're abusing MSIE as a webbrowser?
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