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Antivirus Software - Reviews sharkbait999 07-17-2006
Posted by sharkbait999 on July 17, 2006, 11:59 am
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After using the product for three years, and rejection of a legitimate
rebate I filed last year, I have decided to look at something other than
McAfee. Once I removed McAfee from my notebook, the machine started to
perform almost as nicely as the day I bought it. Never realized how much of
a resource pig McAfee was. In its place, I loaded a trial version of a
product from ESET called NOD32 system, which seems to consume far less
system resources. I have no idea how good this product really is.

What is the consensus on a good antivirus product? For me, it cannot be a
resource hog like McAfee.

rg



Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on July 17, 2006, 12:17 pm
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sharkbait999 wrote:
> After using the product for three years, and rejection of a legitimate
> rebate I filed last year, I have decided to look at something other than
> McAfee.

I thought just carefully looking at the McAfee product itself should
have got you into demanding you money back.

> In its place, I loaded a trial version of a
> product from ESET called NOD32 system, which seems to consume far less
> system resources.

Oh well, what about not running any virusscanner at all?

> I have no idea how good this product really is.

Then damn google a bit around.

> What is the consensus on a good antivirus product?

That there is none. :-)

> For me, it cannot be a resource hog like McAfee.

Well, virus scanners capabilities are a side-effect on McAfee products.
They're primarily intended to fuck up your system, and the resource hog
is just the slightest of its problems.

Posted by optikl on July 18, 2006, 7:56 am
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Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

>
>> What is the consensus on a good antivirus product?
>
> That there is none. :-)
>

It's one thing to crusade against the hype created by security software
companies. It's another to flat-out intentionally give poor and
misleading information to the less informed, just to push your agenda.
You'll never be a Volker Birk. Quit trying.

Posted by Sebastian Gottschalk on July 18, 2006, 9:03 am
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optikl wrote:

>>> What is the consensus on a good antivirus product?
>>
>> That there is none. :-)
>>
>
> It's one thing to crusade against the hype created by security software
> companies. It's another to flat-out intentionally give poor and
> misleading information to the less informed, just to push your agenda.

And it's a third thing to ignore a smilie.

And it's a forth thing to ignore the meaning: That there are different
measures for quality, and that there's no single product that addresses
every measure.
Par example NOD32, which has been discussed here sometimes, is pretty
resource-saving, has a good heuristic, code transformation based
signatures and regular updates. However, it has less accurate signatures
and a less powerful unpacking engine than KAV, it's running as a system
service even when you just want the on-demand scanning, and the default
settings are crap.
Depending on your intends, f.e. that signature-based scanning is coming
to its end and that virusscanners merely serve a life as intrusion
detection and massive junk filters, shouldn't have much complexity and
work without system right, ClamAV/ClamWin might be a more approciate
choice, even though its effectivity against rare malware is way less
than NOD32's.

> You'll never be a Volker Birk. Quit trying.

-.-

#initd stop trying_to_be_Volker_Birk
error: daemon not running

Posted by optikl on July 18, 2006, 7:50 pm
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Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> optikl wrote:
>
>>>> What is the consensus on a good antivirus product?
>>> That there is none. :-)
>>>
>> It's one thing to crusade against the hype created by security software
>> companies. It's another to flat-out intentionally give poor and
>> misleading information to the less informed, just to push your agenda.
>
> And it's a third thing to ignore a smilie.

Then I guess I misinterpreted your meaning, which wasn't clear from just
the smilie.

>
> And it's a forth thing to ignore the meaning: That there are different
> measures for quality, and that there's no single product that addresses
> every measure.

That was not the question he posed. He asked if there was a consensus on
a good product, not one that addresses every measure (best).


> Par example NOD32, which has been discussed here sometimes, is pretty
> resource-saving, has a good heuristic, code transformation based
> signatures and regular updates. However, it has less accurate signatures
> and a less powerful unpacking engine than KAV, it's running as a system
> service even when you just want the on-demand scanning, and the default
> settings are crap.

Ok, it's not perfect. But it's not considered a good product? Just what
is your definition of good. I know what the universally accepted
dictionary definitions are. I think you're back peddling.


> Depending on your intends, f.e. that signature-based scanning is coming
> to its end and that virusscanners merely serve a life as intrusion
> detection and massive junk filters, shouldn't have much complexity and
> work without system right, ClamAV/ClamWin might be a more approciate
> choice, even though its effectivity against rare malware is way less
> than NOD32's.

Your point is not clear at all. Why would it be more appropriate?
Because it acts like a stateful inspection filter?
>
>> You'll never be a Volker Birk. Quit trying.
>
> -.-
>
> #initd stop trying_to_be_Volker_Birk
> error: daemon not running

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