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Test viruses Richard Lightenworth 06-09-2007
---> Re: Test viruses Richard Lighten...06-09-2007
---> Re: Test viruses Richard Lighten...06-10-2007
| |--> Re: Test viruses David H. Lipman06-10-2007
| |--> Re: Test viruses Frederic Bonroy06-09-2007
---> Re: Test viruses Richard Lighten...06-10-2007
Posted by Slarty on June 9, 2007, 6:45 pm
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:15:03 GMT, Richard Lightenworth wrote:

> I'm sure other readers on
> alt.comp.anti-virus (and possibly some of the other group moderators
> other than yourself) can attest to that.

LOL!

Get this into what appears to be your thick head, there are *no* moderators
for this newsgroup. David Lipman, who will no doubt speak for himself, is a
much respected contributor here (and elsewhere) for his ever ready and
helpful information for those needing it. He's not a moderator, and I doubt
that he would wish to be one.

Now, just listen to and take notice of his advice. And you'll find it
better in anynewsgroup to follow a few threads first before vouchsafing
your pearls of wisdom to the unwashed multitude.

Thank you and good night!

Roy

Posted by David H. Lipman on June 9, 2007, 9:20 pm
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|
| LOL!
|
| Get this into what appears to be your thick head, there are *no* moderators
| for this newsgroup. David Lipman, who will no doubt speak for himself, is a
| much respected contributor here (and elsewhere) for his ever ready and
| helpful information for those needing it. He's not a moderator, and I doubt
| that he would wish to be one.
|
| Now, just listen to and take notice of his advice. And you'll find it
| better in anynewsgroup to follow a few threads first before vouchsafing
| your pearls of wisdom to the unwashed multitude.
|
| Thank you and good night!
|
| Roy

Thank you Roy -- You are correct on all parts.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by Virus Guy on June 9, 2007, 7:43 pm
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Richard Lightenworth wrote:

> As moderator of alt.comp.anti-virus I am aware that it is your
> duty to responsibly mandate what belongs and what doesn't belong
> in this usenet group

Um, Richard - you do realize that there is no moderator for this
newsgroup.(?)

> Before you impose a ban on me

You can't be banned (by anyone) from posting to this newsgroup.

Posted by David H. Lipman on June 9, 2007, 9:28 pm
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| On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:24:17 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>|> Learn to leave replies intact, instead of editing parts of the message
>|> that might contain important information in regards to my question.
>|> Thanks for the link, but sorry, you're way off. As stated earlier I'm
>|> looking for actual virus files themselves in order to do some real
>|> world testing right here at home.
>>
>> His answer was correct.
>> Request for virus samples are unacceptable in an anti virus news group.
|
| FYI it is not an un-common practice to use real-world virus samples in
| a controlled test on a single pc or network. I'm sure other readers on
| alt.comp.anti-virus (and possibly some of the other group moderators
| other than yourself) can attest to that.
|
>> Please don't do it again.
|
| As moderator of at.comp.anti-virus I am aware that it is your duty to
| responsibly mandate what belongs and what doesn't belong in this
| usenet group and I apologize if I upset you in anyway. Before you
| impose a ban on me let me reassure you I felt my question was a fair
| one.
|
>> You mentioned the EICAR file. Use it. (you called it "ecar")

This is an unmoderated News Group. Moderated News Groups would show "Moderated"
when you
list the subject headings in the group. As Roy correctly indicated, I wouldn't
want the
job.

Saying what is or isn't acceptable is something all "regular participants" can
do.

The problem is vetting the requester. We can't tell if your cause is legitimate
or not.
Our intent is deal with malware, not spread it around.

What you also intend on doing is dangerous. You risk infecting your own PC and
possibly a
leakage causing a localized infection.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by kurt wismer on June 10, 2007, 1:15 am
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Richard Lightenworth wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:24:17 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
>
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>> | Learn to leave replies intact, instead of editing parts of the message
>> | that might contain important information in regards to my question.
>> | Thanks for the link, but sorry, you're way off. As stated earlier I'm
>> | looking for actual virus files themselves in order to do some real
>> | world testing right here at home.
>>
>> His answer was correct.
>> Request for virus samples are unacceptable in an anti virus news group.
>
> FYI it is not an un-common practice to use real-world virus samples in
> a controlled test on a single pc or network. I'm sure other readers on
> alt.comp.anti-virus (and possibly some of the other group moderators
> other than yourself) can attest to that.

fyi it is not an un-common practice to mistakenly think that you can
test anti-virus products meaningfully without lots of time, effort, and
specialized knowledge...

http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2007/04/myth-of-meaningful-informal-anti.html

also, fyi it is not an un-common practice for newbs to get all in a huff
after being told that sharing malware samples with strangers goes
against the mores of the group...

http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2004/12/viruses-and-disclosure.html

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

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