Symantec NIS and tampered MBR/Boot Sector

Symantec NIS and tampered MBR/Boot Sector

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Symantec NIS and tampered MBR/Boot Sector Ar Q 06-19-2007
Posted by Ar Q on June 19, 2007, 7:52 am
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My friend's harddrive/computer became kind of slow lately. She wanted me to
found out if it is software issue or hardware malfunction. So I took her
hard drive and hooked it to my computer (copy my hd image to her hd first).
As some of you know, I have maximized my Norton Internet Security
activations, so I immediately delete the NIS program. Then I run some
diagnosis and play some popular video games. Her hard drive looks pretty
good to me. I returned it to her and told her the problem is more like
software issue.

But now she only got blue screen using that hd. Taking it back to my place,
the hd works fine again. I did some research on this issue and found some
articles from Internet. Apparently, Symantec's activation technology is to
write some data to MBR/Boot sector to track the number of activations having
done and which may cause tampered hard drives inaccessible once the maximum
number is reached. But the articles I read don't have information on how to
reverse the effect. Will any of you knowing this matter point me to some web
pages? (I just want to put her MBR/Boot Sector back to as it was, not
reducing the activation count on her hard drive since she doesn't use NIS.)
Thanks.

(And now I officially hate Symantec.All I want to do is to impress the girl
and instead it makes me look bad. All the craps on activation just make the
paid customers miserable.)

Ar Q



Posted by Leythos on June 19, 2007, 9:00 am
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ArthurQ283@hottmail.com says...
> (And now I officially hate Symantec.All I want to do is to impress the girl
> and instead it makes me look bad. All the craps on activation just make the
> paid customers miserable.)

Symantec does NOT keep a drive from booting because you pirate a copy of
it - they would be in all sorts of of trouble for that.

You did screw up her computer, your image is not valid for her computer,
your windows licenses is not valid for her computer, your software
licenses are not valid for her computer.

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Posted by Ar Q on June 19, 2007, 9:28 am
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>
> You did screw up her computer, your image is not valid for her computer,
> your windows licenses is not valid for her computer, your software
> licenses are not valid for her computer.
>

I should be more specific. I don't intend for her computer to use my
licneses. She has her own. Before I operated on her computer, I made an
image of her computer and restored that image after I have done my
diagnosis/evaluation on her hard drive. What I didn't account for is that
Symantec tampered the MBR/Boot Sector. It goes beyond the one partition I
backed up/played/restored and has an inreversable effect on MBR/Boot Sector.

By the way, I bought her a new hard drive. And her old hd can be used on my
computer perfectly. (This is also not Microsoft's fault. I have done similar
operations for others many times. But this is the first time I have NIS 2006
installed on my computer. Before that I had NIS 2003 which doesn't have
activations. So the similar operations are OK then.)

Ar Q





Posted by Leythos on June 19, 2007, 11:42 am
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ArthurQ283@hottmail.com says...
>
> >
> > You did screw up her computer, your image is not valid for her computer,
> > your windows licenses is not valid for her computer, your software
> > licenses are not valid for her computer.
> >
>
> I should be more specific. I don't intend for her computer to use my
> licneses. She has her own. Before I operated on her computer, I made an
> image of her computer and restored that image after I have done my
> diagnosis/evaluation on her hard drive. What I didn't account for is that
> Symantec tampered the MBR/Boot Sector. It goes beyond the one partition I
> backed up/played/restored and has an inreversable effect on MBR/Boot Sector.
>
> By the way, I bought her a new hard drive. And her old hd can be used on my
> computer perfectly. (This is also not Microsoft's fault. I have done similar
> operations for others many times. But this is the first time I have NIS 2006
> installed on my computer. Before that I had NIS 2003 which doesn't have
> activations. So the similar operations are OK then.)

If you Imaged her drive then there is nothing that would not have been
restored - so it appears you imaged part of her drive and that's always
a mistake. When you are going to clone a drive you need to clone the
ENTIRE DRIVE not just a portion of it - this would have eliminated your
problem.

Restoring your drive to hers was and is a mistake, cloning it, then a
wipe/restore and then restore datafiles would have been enough.

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and put on his website: http://www.futurehardware.in/595578-2.htm all
exposed to children (the link I've include does not directly display his
filth). You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.

Posted by Aardvark on June 19, 2007, 12:33 pm
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:28:26 +0000, Ar Q wrote:

>>
>> You did screw up her computer, your image is not valid for her
>> computer, your windows licenses is not valid for her computer, your
>> software licenses are not valid for her computer.
>>
>>
> I should be more specific. I don't intend for her computer to use my
> licneses. She has her own. Before I operated on her computer, I made an
> image of her computer and restored that image after I have done my
> diagnosis/evaluation on her hard drive. What I didn't account for is
> that Symantec tampered the MBR/Boot Sector. It goes beyond the one
> partition I backed up/played/restored and has an inreversable effect on
> MBR/Boot Sector.
>
> By the way, I bought her a new hard drive. And her old hd can be used on
> my computer perfectly. (This is also not Microsoft's fault. I have done
> similar operations for others many times. But this is the first time I
> have NIS 2006 installed on my computer. Before that I had NIS 2003 which
> doesn't have activations. So the similar operations are OK then.)
>
> Ar Q

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