Showdown: Spyware Search & Destroy SHAMED by Super Utilities for me today

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Showdown: Spyware Search & Destroy SHAMED by Super Utilities for me today guybannister58@aol.com 05-29-2006
Posted by guybannister58@aol.com on May 29, 2006, 4:14 pm
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Until a few minutes ago I used SS&D regularly for at leats a year or
so. Then, perhaps 20 minutes ago, I scanned my system with the spyware
detection and removal utility of the trial version of Super Utilties
(ver. 6.25) -- it found 49 instances of spyware! Before removing the 49
instances, however, I AGAIN ran my SS&D -- as usual, it detected that
my Windows Firewal was off as well as, on this occasion, an instance of
Casal Media spyware. Disturbingly (in contrast to what Super Utilities
had found, *that* was *ALL* it detected.

I realize SS&D is free (ironically, I almost sent in a small donation a
few days ago but was too lazy -- now I WON'T) and that my copy of SU
will expire in less than 2 weeks, but JAYSUS!: compared to the *49*
spywares found by SU versus SS&D's pathetic *1* I'd have to say that
SS&D (for me, anyway) although free is virtually WORTHLESS.

I'd like to hear from others who've used/continue to use SS&D -- have
you ever compared it to other spyware killers? Did you find it as
lacking as I did or do you feel confident, based one xperience, in
saying it's compretitive with other anti-spyware apps?


Posted by YoKenny on May 29, 2006, 5:07 pm
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guybannister58@aol.com typed:
> Until a few minutes ago I used SS&D regularly for at leats a year or
> so. Then, perhaps 20 minutes ago, I scanned my system with the spyware
> detection and removal utility of the trial version of Super Utilties
> (ver. 6.25) -- it found 49 instances of spyware! Before removing the
> 49 instances, however, I AGAIN ran my SS&D -- as usual, it detected
> that my Windows Firewal was off as well as, on this occasion, an
> instance of Casal Media spyware. Disturbingly (in contrast to what
> Super Utilities had found, *that* was *ALL* it detected.
>
> I realize SS&D is free (ironically, I almost sent in a small donation
> a few days ago but was too lazy -- now I WON'T) and that my copy of SU
> will expire in less than 2 weeks, but JAYSUS!: compared to the *49*
> spywares found by SU versus SS&D's pathetic *1* I'd have to say that
> SS&D (for me, anyway) although free is virtually WORTHLESS.
>
> I'd like to hear from others who've used/continue to use SS&D -- have
> you ever compared it to other spyware killers? Did you find it as
> lacking as I did or do you feel confident, based one xperience, in
> saying it's compretitive with other anti-spyware apps?

Anything from an AOL luser is worthless spam except for some sites I got for
my HOSTS file:
127.0.0.1 mastara.seeq.com
127.0.0.1 www .regnow.com <== remove space to inhibit affiliate marketer
site



Posted by Art on May 29, 2006, 7:15 pm
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On 29 May 2006 13:14:59 -0700, "guybannister58@aol.com"

>Until a few minutes ago I used SS&D regularly for at leats a year or
>so. Then, perhaps 20 minutes ago, I scanned my system with the spyware
>detection and removal utility of the trial version of Super Utilties
>(ver. 6.25) -- it found 49 instances of spyware! Before removing the 49
>instances, however, I AGAIN ran my SS&D -- as usual, it detected that
>my Windows Firewal was off as well as, on this occasion, an instance of
>Casal Media spyware. Disturbingly (in contrast to what Super Utilities
>had found, *that* was *ALL* it detected.
>
>I realize SS&D is free (ironically, I almost sent in a small donation a
>few days ago but was too lazy -- now I WON'T) and that my copy of SU
>will expire in less than 2 weeks, but JAYSUS!: compared to the *49*
>spywares found by SU versus SS&D's pathetic *1* I'd have to say that
>SS&D (for me, anyway) although free is virtually WORTHLESS.
>
>I'd like to hear from others who've used/continue to use SS&D -- have
>you ever compared it to other spyware killers? Did you find it as
>lacking as I did or do you feel confident, based one xperience, in
>saying it's compretitive with other anti-spyware apps?

The problem here is that you've not established that SS&D is lacking
since you've not established that SU isn't false reporting. So far as
I can find, SU doesn't appear on either the lists of "trustworthy"
apps nor the list of rouge apps at this site:

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#trustworthy

I tried SU and it reported two IE related items in my registry.
Whether or not these items are "for real" I don't know. At least
it didn't produce a long list of suspicious reports. Nor did it
produce a list of useless tracking cookies reports. Based on that, it
would seem that perhaps many of the 49 alleged spywares it found on
your PC may be legit findings and not purely fabrications. One thing
that bothered me about SU is that it currently only has a little over
5,000 sigs. That doesn't strike me as a particularly large data base.

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg



Posted by guybannister58@aol.com on May 31, 2006, 12:11 am
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Art wrote:

> The problem here is that you've not established that SS&D is lacking
> since you've not established that SU isn't false reporting. So far as
> I can find, SU doesn't appear on either the lists of "trustworthy"
> apps nor the list of rouge apps at this site:
>
> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#trustworthy

Whattya know? An *intelligent* reply (actually this is but the 2nd
reply to my post that I've read -- the first was merely a generic,
embarrasingy unoriginal anti-AOL scrawl.)

But point taken, Art -- I admittedly didn't consider the possibiity
of false-positives from SU (although, I hasten to add, to its credit
the app did provide cite the specific alleged-spyware files'
locations.)

> I tried SU and it reported two IE related items in my registry.
> Whether or not these items are "for real" I don't know. At least
> it didn't produce a long list of suspicious reports. Nor did it
> produce a list of useless tracking cookies reports. Based on that, it
> would seem that perhaps many of the 49 alleged spywares it found on
> your PC may be legit findings and not purely fabrications.

Hopefully others will provide some additional anecdotal reports on
this.

>One thing
> that bothered me about SU is that it currently only has a little over
> 5,000 sigs. That doesn't strike me as a particularly large data base.

Another good point. Tx!


Posted by Bill on May 29, 2006, 8:40 pm
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guybannister58@aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to hear from others who've used/continue to use SS&D -- have
> you ever compared it to other spyware killers? Did you find it as
> lacking as I did or do you feel confident, based one xperience, in
> saying it's compretitive with other anti-spyware apps?

It has been no secret for some time that SS&D pretty much sucks. I
replaced it long ago with Webroot Spy Sweeper. It's not free but seldom
is anything worth using without cost.


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