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Posted by Victek on July 8, 2008, 12:22 pm
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> Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in
> by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are
> facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government
> wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can in
> the real world.
>
> Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate
> companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users
> forced to buy their products.
>
> Gaz
>
Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the law
on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a global
entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate activities
within their borders.
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Posted by Gaz on July 8, 2008, 5:02 pm
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>> Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in
>> by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are
>> facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government
>> wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can
>> in the real world.
>>
>> Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate
>> companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users
>> forced to buy their products.
>>
>> Gaz
>>
> Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the
> law on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a
> global entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate
> activities within their borders.
No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others
have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the
net. The internet is not some legal limbo, where fraudsters can get away
with what they wish.
Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card
payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal
behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain
an active blacklist of malicious sites.
It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by
some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but
some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort.
Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear.
Gaz
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Posted by David H. Lipman on July 8, 2008, 5:12 pm
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>>> Is anything really done about these sites? The numbers of people taken in
>>> by these frauds must be frightening, the credit card companies are
>>> facilitating this organised crime. We have seen how, when a government
>>> wants to, it can enforce law on the internet just as strongly as it can
>>> in the real world.
>>> Many of these fake spyware companies present themselves as legitimate
>>> companies, they are parasitic fraudsters extorting money out of users
>>> forced to buy their products.
>>> Gaz
>> Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the
>> law on the internet? A big part of the problem is the internet is a
>> global entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate
>> activities within their borders.
| No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others
| have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the
| net. The internet is not some legal limbo, where fraudsters can get away
| with what they wish.
| Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card
| payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal
| behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain
| an active blacklist of malicious sites.
| It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by
| some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but
| some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort.
| Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear.
| Gaz
I wish it was that easy. It isn't. :-(
Take for example the RBN.
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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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Posted by ASCII on July 8, 2008, 5:21 pm
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>It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by
>some kind of spyware.
That sounds like it came straight from the advertising department
of some snake oil distributorship.
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Posted by Kerry Brown on July 8, 2008, 7:28 pm
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> by some kind of spyware.
>
Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have
statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be
true.
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Kerry Brown
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